Revolution in Pixels: How AI is Redefining Visual Content w/Bart Caylor
AI visual tools help marketers explore distinctive scenes and emotional creative directions faster, while human craft, cultural understanding, and trust remain essential.
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Visual AI Is a New Creative Layer, Not the Whole Job
AI image tools are changing how quickly marketers can move from an idea to a visual direction. They can create a mood, explore a composition, generate a specific scene, or give a presentation an emotional visual system without hours of stock-photo searching.
That does not make design judgment optional. The strongest results still begin with a clear brief: what should the audience feel, what visual world already belongs to the brand, and what message should the image help communicate?
Start With the Story You Need to Tell
For a presentation about higher-education marketing, the visual direction was intentional. Black-and-white images of anxious board members helped frame common fears. Warm campus scenes with hopeful students helped make the contrasting truth feel tangible. The visuals were not decoration. They helped the audience feel the problem and the possibility.
AI made this kind of concepting faster because it could generate scenes that would have been difficult to find in stock libraries. A prompt could request a particular setting, mood, age range, or representation, then be refined until it fit the larger visual system.
That is the useful shift for marketers: spend less time hunting for an almost-right image and more time deciding what the image needs to do.
Build the Prompt From Real Context
Strong output requires more than a request for a pretty picture. The episode’s presentation workflow began with an existing talk description and a book as source material. AI helped produce an outline, derive myths and truths, find supporting points, and identify source pages. Then visual prompts were built around the message each slide needed to carry.
The same approach works for a campaign. Give the system the actual audience, goal, brand constraints, and tone. Ask it to help explore, then select the results that support the strategy. A detailed prompt is not busywork. It is creative direction translated into a form the tool can use.
Pair Generation With Human Production Skills
Generated images frequently need correction. A composition may be close but need a different focal point, room for type, or removal of an odd detail. Design tools such as Photoshop or Canva remain part of the workflow because they let a marketer edit, combine, and finish a concept instead of accepting the first generated image.
Visual literacy also helps. Designers have vocabulary for styles, lighting, composition, and reference points. That vocabulary makes it easier to describe a result and assess whether it works. It is an advantage, but it can be learned through practice and by studying prompts and examples from people who are a few steps ahead.
Use Care With Real People and Real Cultures
Synthetic visuals and translated video can make communication more accessible, but they also create trust questions. If an image represents an aspirational scene rather than a real campus or customer, be clear about that. If a message is translated for a community, involve someone who understands the culture as well as the language. Literal translation alone may miss meaning that matters.
The productive posture is curiosity and intentionality. Explore the main tools, practice on low-risk work, and keep learning as capabilities change. AI may make visual production faster, but the marketer’s job remains the same: choose the story, protect the audience’s trust, and make the work mean something.
In this episode of the AI-Driven Marketer, Dan Sanchez sits down with Bart Caylor, a forward-thinker in the realm of marketing, to dive into the practical applications of AI in enhancing marketing visuals. Bart shares his journey and insights into utilizing AI for creating more dynamic and engaging photography, video, and design. From automating design processes to generating hyper-realistic visuals, Bart unveils how AI tools are transforming the marketing landscape, making it accessible for marketers to produce high-quality content efficiently. Join us as we explore the future of visual marketing, driven by AI innovation.
Episode Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to the episode and Bart Caylor
01:08 - Bart's journey into AI and visual content creation
03:55 - Practical uses of AI in marketing visuals
08:16 - Insights into mid-journey and AI tools for visuals
12:19 - Ethical considerations and authenticity in AI-generated content
15:32 - The evolution of AI in creating marketing visuals
19:33 - Bart's recommendations for marketers exploring AI
23:43 - Closing remarks and where to learn more from Bart
welcome back to AI microskills where I'm helping marketers Master AI to do more do better and overcome the overwhelm since we all have too much to do as marketers it seems I'm here with Bart Taylor from Taylor Solutions a friend I've known for for a couple of years now but we've we've done a lot together and different marketing circles especially around higher ed but I've been so excited because you've really been pushing the envelope when it comes to AI especially around what you can do visually with AI because lots of people are talking about including me like I've been posting lots of different stuff custom GPS the forks and I've only just this week started really pushing the visual stuff and you've been doing it for a few months now I've been seeing you post video
I've seen you've been posting about this stuff for months and months and months now so you're way ahead of us on a lot of this stuff and I wanted to explore this topic of where ai's at enabled being able to assist marketers in photography and design maybe in a video to what are you finding is practical right now for marketers where are you using it so there's a ton of places that's right now and I guess before I even start getting into those micro skills and some of the things that I'm doing with it the use cases I always like to start off and just say look AI is not going to take your job so I mean it's it's going to be one of those things that it is another
I started my career in 1992 and you know when I got my first design job they were just plopping the Big Macs down on the desks and saying okay designers art directors creative directors figure it out cuz this is the way we're doing it now and I knew how to do it and so I was able to kind of jump start my career because I had some skills and some tools that everybody else around me didn't and so I think if you're a designer or any kind of creative that's listening right now take take take stock in that and realize the fact that you're listening to this podcast you are going to be in high demand so your job's not going to go away and so I I really think that that's one thing to keep in mind is that this is another tool in your tool bag right now you might be using Photoshop or illustrator or
this is just another another set of tools that you can use and so practically for me to answer your question you know I use that you started your career as a designer yes I did or just a marketer but you started I was a graphic design major and it was a 1992 when I graduated the web hadn't come out yet and so it was literally print design is what I started out in and yeah it happened to have had a propensity toward the Mack and so during college I was playing on those little square Max you know and we had Photoshop and and pagemaker the very very early as versions of stuff and so when I started all that you know I remember in 1994 my wife
my graduate work at Wright State University in Dayton and I would go in the evenings while she studied and I would they had their card catalog hooked up to the Internet and so I was you know that's when I first started surfing and seeing what things were about and I went back to my boss the next day and I said hey I think this whole internet thing might be something that that marketers and designers like us should be doing and I think it's going to do something and he assured me it was a fad that I didn't need to worry about but then being the entrepreneur he was he went out and sold a website when he had a chance and I you know I said I don't want to do one I thought we had to look into it he's like well now it's the opportunity and I get a chance to do it and get to learn right exactly right so that's kind of the way we're doing it now with AI it's I was telling somebody the other day I have never felt the same feeling that I
12 months as then when I was back in 1994 doing my first website you know looking at source code figuring out how did they do that in HTML and how can I you know copy that and do it on my sites I mean prompts are out there you can copy and paste prompts from mid Journey or you know chat GPT wherever you're at there's a ton of people that are out there willing to share what they're doing you just have to be kind of intentional to go find it and so you know some of the things I'm doing I mean obviously I've been using chat a lot I use a lot and and and and and and and and and and perplexity those are probably my three that I go to most for kind of that chat conversational Ai and then as far as visuals I've played
play a dolly within chat it's a lot better in the four version of paid version so I'm using that I'm using mid Journey a lot I really kind of start using mid Journey probably January of last year because I saw that from what I could read it was kind of out there further than anybody else and then since then obviously Adobe has done a ton in there they've invested a lot of money and you can see that in their their their their Photoshop it's pretty incredible so I played with that but I would say right now I'm spending the majority of my time and clawed chat and and mid journey and just to kind of give you a sample of the things that I'm typing trying to do I I am doing a lot more speaking now because of you know getting into a i and in higher ed you know they like to have you come and talk about those things
plus I just wrote a book and so I've got all these different things that I'm doing and and practical uses that I'm using it for is so I've got a presentation that I've got to give it at Ada you and I've done that together and I'm going to be down there and in February in Orlando and I needed to do a presentation to to presidents about the myths and truths of higher education marketing and so I had agreed to do this probably eight months ago David Metter so you and I both know he kind of wrote this really slick little you know what people would learn from it and so I took that what he wrote I threw it into chat and then I said okay I just wrote my book so I threw my book into chat the PDF of my book and I said I want you to take ideas out of my book and match it to this
give me an outline for a 60-minute presentation and so it generated it generated the presentation out of what the abstract was for the talk out of all the content that I had for the book and so that gave me my my draft of the you know the 1218 slides that it was going to have me do and then what I did is I said okay now that you've had that now I want you to take each of those slides and I want you to develop a myth and give me a headline for the myth and give me a truth and give me a headline for the truth and then I want to have a slide the next slide is going to be key findings and give me three bullet points out of my book and give me the page number that you referenced it from so I had to use cloth for that to get a little bit more advanced and so
it generated that out and send all of a sudden I had a script for exactly what I was going to take into canva I had bullet points with page numbers and it was referencing from my book so that I could and I put those in the notes because I didn't want to have page numbers on my slides and so then the next thing I did is I said okay now I want to have visuals for all of this and so I've been going really deep in mid journey and a couple guys that I've been following let me see what his name is it's Rory you might know who he is right off the top here I can get it for your show notes but his he is kind of a leading Ad Agency guy that's using mid Journey they're using mid Journey for all of their paid ads their their digital advertising firm and he's going deep
anywhere between 20,000 images a month for all of their clients using mid journey and so in this talk that I watched he basically explained how to do the essence of a prompt of to make it really successful in mid-june and he wrote this he did this presentation back in December well since then come out which is kind of blow in the doors off of everything right now and so what I did is I went into chat GPT and wrote a custom GPT utilizing his script for how to do a good journey prompt you know he knows all those little you know style equals raw and are and 169 I don't understand what all that stuff is but you know he outlined what that was and the best numbers to get the certain kind of
hyper realistic results or other things so I created this custom GPC that would allow me just to go back and answer questions and so it prompts you to say hey what's your subject what kind of mood do you want to set what's the lighting like and so I just answered like five or six questions I added some additional custom things in there for like because I'm higher ed it's like what campus do you want to reflect you know what do you want it to be and I found that that's been really helpful for me to kind of generate a nice mid Journey prompt that I can then copy and paste out of out of the money and I can get some pretty impressive stuff pretty quick and so I use that for this presentation where I wanted to kind of show off you know these these different emotional settings in the presentation where hey
desperate Board of higher education who were down so I wrote all this prompt about make them down and make them you know make it chaotic and so I turned all those into black and white photos that were very it stirred emotion in my viewers so that when I was saying hey this is the myth you're probably hearing this from your board you're getting a lot of you know it's causing you angst and then when I showed the truth I had these gorgeous shots of
campus shots at Golden hour in happy happy Generation Z students and and the hopefulness of all of this that was all intentional because in my presentation I wanted to make sure that I communicated that I would have never been able to pull that off with stock or if I would it would have taken forever to find the right stock image the right you know I might have found one but hey I really need to have 10 board members because I've got 10 myths so utilizing mid journey to do that gave me a tremendous opportunity and then as I'm looking through it I'm like okay I'm I'm missing you know a racial representation or ethnic representation I could go back into my prompt and say you know make it a 55 year old female Hispanic and then
sudden I've got somebody that is going to fit that profile to to fit in what I wanted that kind of gave the feel of everything else and so that's a very practical way that I've been using some of this and that's just an example for for a presentation that I'm doing but you know I have not yet used it right now I'm using it for presentations I'm using visuals for social media for for for for you know some of my own things but I haven't used the visuals yet for any clients I've been talking to them about you know what I'm calling not so stock imagery and I know that there are some schools that are starting to lean into utilizing visuals they're trying to do it in such a way to be able to say this was created with the help of mid Journey so they're they're acknowledging the
did they use AI in the creation of the visual and some of them are even calling them that these are aspirational images of our campus these are aspirational images of our students so they're getting around that cuz there's still a lot of debate on you know where does mid Journey get the images and how is it learning and and there's a lot of misunderstanding about how these large language models are you know are trained they think it's like Google search where you know if you go to Google Images you see a ton of images as well that's not what AI is doing its it's basically learning like we learn as humans and and you give it enough you know generation sees students and then you ask it to put a Generation Z students where it's like oh I know what a Generation Z student is its
repurposing it it's actually learning what that image is supposed to be and then giving you that and that's why you get weird things sometimes I mean it's one thing you got to count all the fingers before you put it on to something to come back a little bit so we've covered a lot of ground here I want to come sorry cuz there's so much to cover here I'm sure there's many people that have gone to something like and just been like write me a presentation on EX and they don't get great results but what I saw you do is break it down into multiple steps one you had contacts for it to start from you had a whole book of content and you had the
the context of the the introduction of the description of the talk written for you right and the title and then you gave it a good prompt to set the tone you also gave it Direction Where You structured it based on your based on this content create you essentially told it what direction to go into and I think that's where a lot of people are missing it with AI in general is that you can't just ask it for something you have to have a really clear idea of what you want it's like it's like you almost have to think about it is delegating to an intern that it's extremely knowledgeable but very lacks comments this is the I this is where the picture I have in my mind of AI right now because I used to work with interns all the time 18 year olds very willing very willing lots of heart
but they didn't know anything so I had to train them and how to do it I had to make everything into step by step instructions because they wander and they'd get stuck more often and be like I don't know what to do did you follow the list right exactly step by step so if you if you do that for AI is very competent and it wants to do it and it will do something it might not do the right thing but yeah you get in contacts and step by step instructions it will execute an amazing amount of work for you I think you're exactly right and I know that Dr Jules white he he has a couple different courses on corsia and he's a professor at Vanderbilt University and I've taken several lives he uses that intern as an example and I love that because I think that you're right you wouldn't fire an intern when they came back and gave you something that you weren't expecting
I'm never using you again get out of my face that's what a lot of people do with AI the first time they try it like this isn't anything big a deal what's the big deal and they closed it down that's the biggest mistake you can make you have to look at it like that conversation and like you said give it context give it step by step instructions but then say hey do you have any questions for me and then chat GT will come back and say yeah here's 16 questions if you can answer these it'll help me give you a better answer that's one of the keys is having have recognizing it's a conversation to have with them as a just this idea of oh I just expect it to go and create some magic box but I think you're exactly right Dan you've got to you've got to think about it from a contextual
play step by step instructions and have a conversation with it one of the things you brought up was that I think this is the big realization I've had over the last week that it's not going to replace designers but I remember like a lot of time is spent in graphic design since I'm speaking to marketers you probably weren't a designer most time designing is actually not designing it's actually looking for the thing that you can help then design yeah it's inspiration graphic designers are just manipulators but we need very few designers can create raw stuff for them to manipulate like very few designers are also photographers now there's many photographer designers but even less illustrators or
you come up with custom typefaces graphic designers usually don't do those things but they have to use all those things in order to come up with work now they can make custom logos and stuff like they know how to make some stuff but often times as a designer you spending probably 50% of your time that's a lot 50% of your time looking for that stock photo yeah it's so infuriating and nowadays it's a lot easier with unsplash there's so many there's such a wealth of free stock or cheap stocks stuff out there I remember when I started in 2000 and 2006 2005 or 2006 to 2008 was when I started as a designer you were just staring at an empty page in Photoshop because you hardly had any photos to manipulate or
wants to work with or anything yeah I remember back in the day when I started my career we had a wall in the back of the studio that was just book after book after book and so the stock agencies would send out huge you know phone book I mean even some of the people listening now don't know what a phone book is they would send out these huge books hardbound books of Photography you know and all the photographers would buy a spread to show off their work and you would go back there and flip through those for hours just to kind of get an idea of oh that's kind of the feeling I have in mind that photograph then you would either hire that photographer to come and do it or you would get a tear sheets and put together a mood board and take it to a local photographer to say this is kind of the field that I'm thinking and you have a sketch so I mean
would be thousands and thousands of dollars to get a photo that you have in your mind to get on the cover of a brochure and it's not that way anymore yeah and it's like and all these tools is as good as Photoshop I mean illustrator and all these tools and all the stock stuff now there's still plenty of designers it's just sped up work and maybe better and I'm now seeing AI for what it actually is and just making work better because I don't have to spend time finding the perfect stock photo I can just tell AI what I need exactly it's just saves so much time and illustrations I couldn't I I love I actually like painting and drawing but the time it takes to create a good illustration is this intense which is why most people use what's my most graphic designers use photography because illustrations so
for now man I've been even for this show I'm creating like collage style vintage collage style illustrations cuz I actually like that and I don't know why I just geeking out over that but this show is going to be very vintage collage oriented now because that's the style I picked for it and now but now I can do it because it was hard to get those things before hard to find vintage photos period let alone cut them out and play some next to each other in a way that was visually interesting and stunning yeah and one of the things that I love about the people that are creating and I don't you might not be aware of this but Brian Piper kind of turned me on to this journey actually has their own magazine it's print magazine that comes out
every month and you can subscribe to it and they just have the best of the work that's been done on Mid journey and not only do they have the the name of the person but they have the prompt in there so you can actually go in and see okay how did they do that retro photo look how did they do that you know jewelry piece and and you can actually grab the prompt and put it in and adjust it how you need it and see if you can get something I love that because it becomes very collaborative I'd say if you're a graphic designer have a visual background you have an advantage because you have vocabulary for how to describe the thing you want I know if I want something that's a vintage there's a number of different words I can go to like collage or like dads and art period like there's a number
graphic design and design history and art history to be able to draw from but it's only a little bit of an advantage because honestly you can just go through the mid Journey Library which I love when you log into it it gives you a wall of all the stuff recently you can just go perusing and click on one that you kind of like and you think is close to what you'd like and just find the prompt and Bam you have the language yeah it's it is amazing and that it also introduces the challenges because as you go into mid Journey you have to recognize that anybody can do the same thing else with what you're doing so there's not a lot of there's a lot of guardrails right now as far as there is no way to copy right in mid Journey image at the current time as you know January of 2024 and there's still a lot of Mis
some taboos even around the the images themselves because of the way they're trained so I think all of that is something to at least be aware of yeah it's interesting you talk about like the the ethical problems of photos I wish I would have had this available back when I worked at Bethany Global University that missionary College because I had stock photo problems because I couldn't use photos of it was a Missionary Training college for those who don't know and Missionary Training for missionaries and marketing it is a problematic because some Christian some countries will kill you for doing that right now literally kill you so it's like super dangerous but you need Photography in order to Market it you're just kind of like it's kind of a weird thing I'm like
I'd imagine it actually would be better for College's to use fake students rather than real students because then you don't have any of the legal problems of using real students I think and I think that that's one of the things that you can do with journey is and all these tools I keep using Journey but that's kind of my catch all right for visual generative AI but I think that one thing I have found is even just by putting
what's the name of the institution that I want to represent it I mean AI understands the world and so when I put in my alma mater Anderson University and and kind of say you know set the set the stock photo on Anderson University's campus and I'm using a short depth of field so it's it's not it's kind of blurry in the background it knows enough that it's red bricks and white trim and I can kind of fake it a little bit to say okay yeah that that that that sells me on that I did another one for Ball State University which is an older school and it's more Gothic it had that feeling in the photography so it's not perfect and you can never say you know you couldn't pass it for that but when you're doing something that you're trying to focus on the students or focus on the vibe this is a good
can I be able to at least get into the right setting feel like until recently like AI photos had a look and feel to them they were rubbery they looked cute they looked too good but just recently tell me a little bit about what you're saying with mid Journey version 6 and how that's I don't know change things for you well I think that it's changing the game in a lot of different ways because it's it's more the photos look like photos that we would take I mean it's not you mentioned it's it's not that plastic he looking people or Too Perfect it's it it kind of makes in a whole lot more of what I would call real life into it and so it's it's and plus I think as you kind of look at it from what I have read is that the the prior version is a kind of are
everything was kind of centered or or it would be kind of predictable and mid Journey 6 is going to introduce this this algorithm that kind of changes things up a little bit and so even in my prompts I like to even use like leading lines or you know the rules of Third Kind of to give the composition type of things mid journey is doing a lot of that more naturally in the in the way it's delivering it in version 6 but I think that now that you even can start to say those things if you know give me a composition with leading lines it knows how to do that and it will actually interpret that language as you mentioned earlier that design language and give you a lot better control on the way that you want to do those prompts and so I have found that six is kind of like a game-changer you know
find my presentations I even have like four slides of like the same prompt that I did in January of last year than I did it in March and then I did it in December and then I didn't January and it's just the amazing amount of vast differences just with one single prompt in in four or five different versions of of mid Journey I've noticed a lot of people struggle with mid Journey they get in there they type out a prompt and they're like Dolly's about the same what do you think the difference is between these two what do you use one when do you use one or when do you use the other I have found that I like to use I think that that Dolly does a better job with just graphics and with it does a pretty decent job with text midd Journey six though is really
play the game up with text you can actually say have a sweatshirt that says this on and it generates a sweatshirt with that on it but you kind of have to kind of play with both I find myself especially like doing something in mid Journey if I say I'm doing a t-shirt with words on it I might then take it into dolly or take it into Photoshop and just have Photoshop redo it or figure out some of the new tools of Photoshop and kind of create what I want in that environment so I think you still you don't have a one source of truth I mean you can't go to one tool and just say that's the tool I have I mean it's a suite of tools and being able to understand hey mid Journey does hyper realistic photographs really really well and and it understands a lot
better on some of the the the the the the nuances of of illustration Dolly probably does you know graphic design better if I need to get an icon or if I needed to get something that was more specific to you know a piece of art that I need a line drawing a dolly does a better job with that and so just being able to play with it and understand the tools that you have at your disposal I think is going to make you a better designer marketer you know prompt engineer because that's that's it I mean no one knows I mean no one can use just chat GPT you've got to you got to understand all the tools that are out there so that you can do the best you're working at that dollies just more intuitive for some reason like you can ask it for something abstract and not be clear
if you're going to get into you know all the camera settings and the focal lengths and the lenses and all that stuff mid journey is going to give you a lot more dials to tweak but I do think that the overhead of learning is is a lot harder than if just you're just in chat GPT and saying hey give me an image of this and this and this and this yeah for the user interface alone because that's the first time you're like what the heck is wrong with me
if you have more than 10,000 images you get access to the prompt in mid Journey like in on their website it's all there now but I haven't hit that threshold yet and so I still have to go back to Discord at least recently I found you could just start messaging the bots so you don't have to be in the chat room with everybody else is going on I have started to do that too because I I mean I hate you I hated having to Wade through everybody's prompting I mean you know there's stuff that it's like I don't this doesn't need to be out in the world and I certainly don't want somebody grabbed it and messing with it while I'm doing it so yeah yeah yeah get that message is better
yeah if you're if you're just new to the visual game definitely start off with just check GPT for and Dolly because it's more intuitive it's easy to use if you find you're getting good results there might be worth paying the extra fee for Mid Journey so I just paid for both now yeah I do too it's like 8 bucks a month for Mid journey and what 20 for Chad GPT for so one thing I will warn people and I don't know if you found this to Dan but I mean there's I mean I get a lot of my AI stuff through Instagram I've got my feeds kind of all you know the algorithms figured out that I like AI so I get all this stuff there's like a billion and one tools out there you got to remember that a lot of them are all just they're just built on top of chat or all the other ones so if you are like oh I heard of this you know pixel AI
whatever stuff and I don't know if that's the name of one but it's tempting to just follow the ball and try to chase something down I don't think I mean I wouldn't waste your time I would focus on the main ones that we've been talking about here chat Dolly you know Claude and and mid journey I don't waste my time chasing chasing the Shadows because it all comes back to these are the best ones on the market I have noticed now that I've started posting a lot about AI naturally I'm getting tagged in a lot of more AI stuff for people like me tried this if you try this I answer is always like no no no no I just stick to the main ones because there's enough to learn just in the main ones and you're right everybody's camping into the open apis open ai's API anyway
experimental nothing useful but I did see something that I was like this is actually useful because it makes for second Clips based on images it's a big one and and I don't know I mean this is not this is a Shameless plug but it isn't we did we did a summit back in October with the higher ed marketer that's that's the one of the companies I have
did you get an AI Summit and so we had a lot of people come on and one of the guys that came on he's got a channel on Instagram called the AI Bible and he has created basically images from every part of scripture and so he uses so he's got like a $500,000 followers or something but anyway he walked us through how he does his process he uses mid-year then he takes him into Runway ML and does the does the short videos then he does a bunch of them so he's got one that I really like where he's like you know what if what if we did a movie of The Book of Daniel and he has like Snoop Dogg as one of the Kings and he has you know Morgan Freeman is one of the other kings and so he's he's basically cast all these people into the characters and
it looks like a movie trailer and it's really creative but he's using the same tools we're talking about right now and Runway ML and so he walked us through that and so I think that again it goes back to being able to understand what your Suite of tools is that you can use and and do that you had mentioned earlier about that language thing and that's probably one area another tool that I've been playing with it we haven't talked about yet is 11 lbs and and hey Jen they 11 Labs has a company called hey Jen or a tool called agenda and that's the one that you can actually upload it's the one that actually scares me the most because you can upload a video and it will create a personal Avatar that is really difficult to
that is not a real person and then basically type in a script that you want that Avatar to say or to deliver and it will it understands the inflections that the tone of your voice it actually changes the the script into that person speaking or that speaking in Spanish or German or whatever it is it's it's more than a parlor trick I am most concerned about it just with our fractured culture right now and how he used for just some very bad things but those types of tools are out there too and the use cases I'm looking at is one of the fastest growing areas as far as higher education marketing is going to be first generation Latino students
list of the Latino families they the way the families make the decisions is that the parents and the grandparents make as much of the decision as the child while most of those first generation students are also the first generation English speakers and so I've encouraged some of my my colleges that are working in there that to have the president record a video acknowledged that they're utilizing a tool a technology that allows them to be translated into Spanish for the parents to understand and that's a way that you're reaching out to them and and presenting information from the president in their voice to that perspective parent I think that's a powerful use case that you if it's done right but I'm more concerned that there's just a lot of things that might be challenging
how do you do it now I'm going to go into a rabbit hole here it's going to stay away from the topic of the podcast around visuals but I was just having a conversation about I'm like well Bart probably knows cuz you you probably have had conversations about it around language do you know if there's like a plug-in for WordPress that will translate for you like your whole website to like Spanish and all the other languages using like open AI or something I haven't seen it yet but I'm sure that if it doesn't exist it will be there soon I've done that as far as just being able to take some things into their the challenge is because we're working on a couple language projects right now for a couple schools where they want to get some key you know enrollment information into Spanish I've actually hired
person from one of my other schools he has a Hispanic background you know he grew up he was the first generation English speaker he said you know he told me yesterday he said you know from the start of age 8 I was my parents legal and banking advisor because I had to read everything for them and then translated into Spanish because I know English from going to American schools but he told so the reason that we've hired him is that not only is he going to be able to translate the language just you know English to Spanish like open AI could he also understands the cultural aspects of it and so he can take the concepts we're trying to do and translated into the Hispanic culture that's what I think right now an open AI cannot do yet yes not probably too
are we from it but that's where I start to kind of put the pause the brakes a little bit on a WordPress plugin just to translate it into Spanish because you know I had somebody working on my house recently that that they were they were Native Spanish speakers and so I used chat GPT to type in what I wanted to say and I held it up and they read it and they're like they you know we were communicating very roughly that way but I think that those are those are things that I think that the language you know while it's going fast and you know I've seen those time Kettle earbuds that you can get on Amazon that you can actually hear it like Jordi from Star Trek those things are on the market now they work pretty well you're going to see a lot of development probably the next six to eight months in language yeah
it's really crazy and I did see there's another one that I recently saw I literally saw this last week I put it into the presentation I'm trying to find it's called Bland Ai and what this is is that and I might have shown this to you too where call centers can actually program a script using chat gptc and it's got a voice Jenner
and it's like milliseconds that it takes to listen and respond and so you can send out these call agents to you know to dial a 1000 people and they basically can have a conversation and many times that the the receiver doesn't know that they're talking to a bot and I think you're going to start to see more of that happening as well because that's just you know you can you can hire an AI bot who's not going to get tired of making calls every day and getting rejected so coming back to like the visual side of AI right now I feel like it's almost practical for marketers to be using AI stuff but I still say we're not there yet for marketing unless you know how to use canva really well and unless you know Photoshop I find that
Photoshop cuz I can just edit out the part that was like a weird little flourish and added into it but often times the journey is giving me something that I didn't want there or I have to I need this the focus to be somewhere else or I have to add text to it or something it's just not all the way there but if you know Photoshop then it can get pretty it's almost all the way there you find about the same thing yeah I am and I know that before midjersey
mid journey to say it almost became like a prompt engine or a cat part which is missing in the visual tools where you can't I mean check GPT lets you do it better because it still is that chat interface and have that chat where you can say that's close but make it this make this better or take that you know third football out of there that is weird and you can't chat yet with with those types of tools and I think that like you said right now you still have to take it into another tool like canva or photoshop to make those edits to get it exactly the way you want and supposed to being able to talk with the tool to get it there yeah and it's you get an image it's you're like oh so close can you just change this one thing and it gives you back
and they're all within the same style or you come up with the character and the characters the same from thing to thing except in different viewpoints like that's got to be around the corner but that'll change the game and all the sudden we can make kids books and yeah I have characters we could take a mask out of a school and all of them throw them all over the place you don't have them doing all kinds of fun stuff if you want to go real deep into that you can do that now with mid Journey there's there's some separate you know it's that code that I don't understand that you know
play whatever I've seen a lot of those you know the the big trending thing right now in social media are these artificial influencers and so there's there's a group of people that have created this artificial influencer that she's got like I don't know how many millions of followers now and they spend a ton of time in mid Journey having this one person and all these different influencer type of environments but I read that they are not only doing it during but then they're taking it into Photoshop they're probably spending two hours a day on that one shot and I'm like at that point why are we doing that I mean I know it's probably a thought experiment but it seems like a lot of wasted time for something that isn't quite there yet yeah almost
I feel like my biggest thing that I'd love to be doing visually and I'm like working on it it's like one of these like ideas that I'm like slowly chipping out of way every week is coming up with some kind of character and making social profiles for that character because that's the fun part about AI is you can tell AI to be that character and it will do stuff it'll it'll talk is that you can literally copy and paste the post and be like respond to the character oh yeah imagine wouldn't that be funny no yeah that'd be great you have like Scrooge McDuck wandering around LinkedIn like owning everybody you can but you any school could do this any company could do this coming up with the character and then you don't have to worry about you know like the influ
all kinds of things that you could be doing but yeah I think that's a great idea so I'm working on a bot right now it's called bite but I want to come up with a name for him that's like the backstory I had AI write the backstory from it's like an AI Support Tech that started malfunctioning and now it's just become cynical and sarcastic about human behavior that's great but it's it's not consistent enough that I'm able to like release it to the wild yet but I'm still trying to train the prompt in order to get a consistent personality on bike yeah so coming but also to just start making visuals of this thing because if you can make visuals
you have a whole playground a visual information to play with and if I mean Disney like works at like no other because they have a whole library or characters to work with any company could do it easy more easily than ever before with just a few more weeks and making it easy to make consistent characters like we could all be doing what is well to some degree be doing what Disney does yeah well now that now that Mickey's out of the in the public domain for Steamboat Willie you could certainly take a swing out of here yeah well let's somebody else take the first swing at it like you know Disney's ready to like see some people like oh yeah I think that's a rocky road right now so yeah
considering for visual AI before we go I'm not sure I would say a specific thing because obviously this podcast needs to be Evergreen and it's you know Brian Piper is a friend of mine and he jokes that every time he does a presentation for AI he puts an expiration date on the front of the deck and it's kind of like the same way with everything we've talked today it's like you know you and I could probably look at this in six months and we'll laugh at oh did you hear what we said there that was really funny that we were thinking that way in January I think that more than anything I would just encourage you to do any listener to take a posture of intentionality and curiosity and just spend time following people that are you know a couple steps ahead of you and keep in mind everybody's just a couple
better part of 12 months so you're not that far beyond Behind everybody else I mean Dan I think you've mentioned that you put in a lot of reps this week and you've gotten a lot further down the road than you were a 7 days ago so it just takes intentionality it takes exploration it takes you know just trial and error and so I would just encourage you know find some people that are a few steps ahead of you and follow them and see what they're doing and when you catch up with them go find some more people that are further ahead than they are there's always going to be somebody out there on the bleeding edge that's doing something that you don't know about it's just a matter of you know finding out who that is and paying attention yeah I've even changed my whole LinkedIn profile tagline to be just a marketer trying to master
2024 cuz I'm not going to try to pretend to be an expert like we're all trying to figure this out together but that's what that's what I end up on podcast like this or or giving talks at universities about Ai and it's like you know hey here's the expert and I'm like I'm not really that much more of an expert I mean I just a couple steps ahead of everybody else so I feel like more of the Scout than the expert I will say all this content will be out of date in six months and that's okay because Elon said something that I thought was insightful now I'm holding to it he's like dude like the whole Playbook every six months I'm like okay I'm now mentally I'm like we're playing on a six-month timeline so essentially you only have to be six months ahead because every what what was big
and became the defining thing everyone's going to learn so I'm predicting that this like custom gpt's or the next prompt engineering right learning how to take your prompt engineering and stack it in order to achieve multiple tasks not just one at a time with that GPT if you can build it to do multiple things and automate the process then that's the thing but you know maybe six months from now something new will come out and everybody will still have to be tested catching up on custom GPS one of my favorite quotes is by Alvin Toffler he wrote In 1970 in the book Future Shock he was a futurist he wrote that the litter of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write but those who cannot learn and relearn and I think you just explained that exactly as the idea that we have to be willing to Pivot
something new and learn that and then relearn again that's going to be the skill set that I think I need to talk about prompt engineering and talk about everything else the true skill set is the agility that you're going to need to go forward yeah man I'm going to end the podcast on that thought right there but tell us where we can learn more from you figure out what you're doing get access to some of these presentations you've you've been showing me and been talking about on the show yeah so I'm probably the best ways to follow me on LinkedIn just barked Taylor and and you'll find that you could just search Bart Taylor Solutions hired marketer those are all you know brands that I'm a part of I just wrote a book if you're in higher you can read it chasing Nation fit it's got a little bit higher and about AI but I'm I'm all about what we talked about
concept on the podcast of doing different things to move the needle instead of just following the herd and so that's really my passion and one of the reasons why I have leaned into AI so much is that I see the the the the the ability for tools like chat GPT mid journey to change and level the playing field for a lot of small for me small college and universities but it's the same thing whatever whatever industry you're in if you're the if you're the entrepreneur that's the small business the underdog man these tools can change the game and even the playing field for you fantastic thanks for joining me thanks Dan remember AI won't replace marketers anytime soon it will just give them superpowers to do more with less so let's level up together
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