From Ears to Eyes: How AI Brings Podcasts to the Page w/Jakub Grajcar
Turn podcast transcripts into useful owned content by choosing one angle, preserving direct quotes, editing AI drafts carefully, and giving visitors a path beyond the episode.
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Turn Podcast Conversations Into an Owned Content Hub
A podcast transcript contains more than show notes. It holds customer language, direct expertise, examples, and several possible content angles. The challenge is not whether AI can turn a transcript into a blog post. The challenge is deciding which part of the conversation should become useful owned content and then editing it into something people want to read.
For a small team, AI changes the economics of that work. A long episode can become a focused article, several topic-specific posts, supporting social content, and a page that gives short-form viewers somewhere useful to go next.
Choose the Angle Before You Draft
Not every episode maps cleanly to one search keyword. A conversation may cover several substantial topics. Instead of forcing all of them into one long recap, identify the strongest thread and build a post around it. Over time, related episodes can also be clustered into a deeper resource on a subject the audience keeps asking about.
This gives each article a clearer purpose. It can answer a specific question, support a search opportunity, or help a visitor take the next step with the business. The transcript is the source material, not the structure of the final page.
Keep the Speaker’s Words at the Center
Direct quotes are one of the best assets in a podcast-derived article. They preserve the voice of the guest, show readers what was actually said, and distinguish the page from generic AI summary content. Build the headings and transitions around those quotes, then add the context that makes the insight easier to apply.
An article can also expand on points that would be awkward to introduce mid-conversation. Link to a related guide, explain a tool mentioned in passing, or connect the episode to another relevant resource. That gives the reader a richer experience while keeping the source conversation intact.
Draft Fast, Edit Like a Senior Writer
AI can produce a useful first draft from a clean transcript, especially when it receives a clear angle, audience, style, and instruction to use literal quotations. It can also help identify themes, questions, and potential sections.
But the draft still needs an editor. Compare outputs, select the strongest passages, remove generic language, check every factual claim and quote, and make sure the page sounds like the brand. A good working standard is to let AI eliminate the blank page, then have a person perform the judgment work that turns a plausible draft into a trustworthy article.
Build Reusable Context for the Brand
Repeatedly briefing an AI about the company wastes time and produces inconsistent results. Create a reusable brand context with the company’s audience, offers, positioning, voice, and key resources. A custom assistant or prompt template can load that context before each transcript workflow begins.
You can do the same for writing style. Analyze a set of existing articles, identify the structural patterns and the details that give the voice character, then use that guide as a starting point. The goal is not to erase human personality. It is to make each new draft start closer to the standard the team has already earned.
Podcast-to-page publishing works best when it combines AI speed with clear editorial choices. Choose the angle, protect the quotes, add the company context, and use the site as the place where a listener can become a reader, subscriber, or buyer.
In this episode of the AI-Driven Marketer, Dan Sanchez talked to Jakub (Kuba) Grajcar, the Content Marketing Manager at ZenPilot, for a conversation about repurposing podcast content. Kuba brings his unique insights into the world of AI, sharing his journey into content marketing as a writer and his current role at ZenPilot. Danchez, our host, dives into the nuances of AI in marketing, discussing how these technologies are reshaping the landscape. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or just starting to explore the potential of AI, this episode is packed with valuable lessons and tips to help you leverage the power of AI in your marketing strategies. Join us for an engaging session filled with expert insights and practical advice!
Timestamps:
00:29.42 - Introduction to Jakub Grajcar's Journey into Content Marketing
03:12.97 - Discussion on AI's Role in Small Teams
06:23.73 - Exploring Different AI Tools for Content Creation
14:58.94 - Key Benefits of Transforming Podcasts into Blog Content
24:22.94 - Crafting Blog Posts from Podcasts: The Process
33:18.48 - Preserving the Essence and Tone in AI-Transformed Content
39:04.27 - Advice for Newcomers in AI-Driven Content Creation
welcome to the AI microskills podcast from carrying the best lessons on AI for marketers who want to leverage what's available now today I'm talking to Cuba gresser who is the content marketing manager at Zen pilot Cuba welcome to the show thanks again so nice to get the invite to this and really really talk to talk about AI with you today so to kind of set some context for the audience tell me a little bit about how you got into content marketing specifically and what you're doing at Zen pilot sure so my background is primarily as a writer the first thing that I did that led me to this career although I didn't know at the time is I wanted to write novels I took part in nanowrimo for those who know you know but it's a
novel writing challenge that takes a month to complete I did that I think five times I still got the books on my shelf got to hide them before my son learns to read cuz they're really cringe so then I got really interested in self-development I joined this personal training startup was training and soft skills right and there I got some coaching got some mentoring I started writing content for them after that my first big job was as a one person content Army at software company called sdx Next software development consulting company I should say there I did everything blogs email website copy sales presentations and kind of scales from there I was lucky
you know the investment in marketing at sdx was quite big so I got my first person kind of reporting to me even though that was my first real job I got my first person within like 3 months and within I think it was four or five years I scaled to 10 people so yeah I really really learned a lot throughout that Journey over time as I was managing the team project management became quite important and I fell in love with click up the project management tool I think a lot of people have heard about it by now and then it was Tiny it was just this the beginning of clickup I think there were like we were one or two because I was 2818 I believe anyway I wrote to click up asking asking them to make a case study out of us
which is the number one click up consultancy right now and you know actually the first company to become a certified clickup consultant and we've been on top of that game ever since and I say we because ended up joining us as you know and focusing on creating great content for them ever since definitely a smaller team there and I'm getting to do more kind of more stuff directly which also led me to leveraging AI a lot more because when you're one person to person team you have got to be you can't get away not you these tools to make a bigger impact right now one of my predictions for the year on AI that
companies in small companies will be taking swings at AI but it'll be the small Scrappy teams that actually figure out how to best use it I think you're going to make some big Investments they're going to have some big flops or some disappointing results I think just cuz that's just what big companies do you make me Investments they don't properly Implement and then they don't do small little test to iterate and get their way there so you have to tell me like how did you you've been using AI to like make your team of two feel like a team of 20 but how did you get into touring like using a specifically to get blog posts out of podcasts right so to clarify right now I'm an individual contributor at some pilot and I've got Jeff Seifer our productivity Professor can work in and
what time he's out of Marketing right now we've both been using Ai and both has been you're talking podcast into blogs I'm doing a lot of that I'm going to talk a lot about that Jeff what he's doing is he's also recording YouTube videos and creating blogs based on that and I really loved his his prompts for that so you should check that out on his own private YouTube and is in Pilot blog within that realm well it's you know the kind of the problem that I was happy to have is that you know as I was joining them pilot there's this really active podcast and a podcast with a long history called agency Journey that great McKenzie has been hosting and in previous seasons of the co-founder Andrew Dempsey was involved in hosting so like a whole Treasure Trove of shows regular episodes
the problem was faced with is you know how do I take these really good conversations full of insights you know on with a really focused audience I mean I say really focused I certainly can get more focused right but agency Journey you know gray has managed to get some of the biggest names in the agency space their sharing their insights how do I turn that into content that is easy enough to produce for small team for good reading right and it's very hard to strike that balance I've experimented in a few ways with this I don't think I am entirely done experimenting but some of the things that I've worked were heavily based on using not just chat GPT
Claude I realized as I was looking at previous episodes of your show that you often asked about Chad GPD first so do let me know how much I can talk about Claude versus he never talked about Claude honestly I'm just not interested in Claude at all why not why not you have to tell me why I should be because I'm just like I'm just not interested in it because it just seems like they're behind I'm probably sure they have some nuances that are better and because he's released custom GTS and it's becoming multi-modal where I can use it to do images and code and okay well I've I think I have an account with Claude I tried it once and then just like whatever seems like GPD to me so I just stayed with you know if you allow me I'll
can you make a case for call and done so I would say I mean if you use both and then my first impressions of Claude where that it gets you a lot further on the first prompt like I mentioned I'm a writer by trade so I have you know a strongly what I would like to call as strongly developed taste when it comes to writing and like the default voice first of all is just is people have got their Radars really tuned to it right now like they can recognize it from a mile away if you don't do a lot of custom prompting to change that voice and also it's like it's really for both uses a lot of big words unnecessarily I just not a fan right and I know that you know you can go in the direction of kind of
can you speak with Claude though my first impression was wow I can give it simple short instructions and at the time that was true it can take a whole podcast transcript which is really important for me and it turns it into reasonably quality writing you know writing of a reasonable quality I would say the voice is more informal uses more direct simple language it knew how to kind of weave in quotes in there I didn't have a bit of a tough time getting it to use quotes kind of direct quotes from the transcript but not at the time I was using YouTube transcript files right so they're there's no there's no punctuation to speak about right so
YouTube kind of unformatted raw text but that's you know relatively easy to fix still you know kind of everything around it the structure of the blog post the fact that it did spit out full blog posts of like 1500 words at a time that Drew me to claw initially I will say yeah right now because the playing can only spit out I don't know it's like a covers around 700 to 800 words at a time yeah so every time you have to do a longer blog posts I found them like okay well I just have to break the block post down to the chunks and sections and then ask it for that section at a time and you're right it does throw out words that are just like dude no one uses the word
and it's like fascinated with that word or in conclusion you're like oh my gosh nobody writes like this stop exactly exactly and Chloe gets formula to but it was not super grating you know like a person could get away like it could just be a relatively inexperienced Rider that falls into certain kind of patterns right it doesn't sound like a machine so much so I know that you know I want you know as this discipline develops you're going to want to get into custom GTS like you know full on assistance right and you're not going to interface with the AI itself so much but I will say give Claude a shot if you haven't yet give it a full podcast transcript it even is gets as simple as write a blog post on this and
and see how much further it gets you to to a reasonable blog post and then with custom prompting it gets even even further in there I gave it simple instructions like use storytelling use a slightly informal style write it for the perspective of the host use a lot of direct quotes and just you know the prompt was kind of to the to the effect of what I just said plus Claude it gave me a good result plus Chachi PT in needs more guidance and that so yeah I sorry I want to get into that because I am a big cloth fan and proponent right now well I mean you're winning me over I'm like man maybe that's why I have been writing short blog posts for chat TPT but it's like they're just okay they're okay yeah but because I'm not a writer I I like multum
I like I mean I like writing I write a lot of LinkedIn posts but I don't like writing long form content so when I found out I could use AI to write the long form content for me and it was reasonably good I was like good enough I didn't I just my my taste in it were so I don't know I hate it writing enough that I just was like nah I just it's good enough C+ is good enough for me but if I can get me to be plus I'm like well I don't know I know a lot of people who can write long-form content well but not a lot of people who enjoy it you know there's two groups overlap I think my greatest strength as a writer has more to do with me just being a better teacher than actually is with writing
not a great writer but I know how to teach and I know how to break complex topics down to the small chunks and that helps because obviously a lot of blog post is education and so since I can better educate but obviously if you read some of my blog posts that I've written personally like you will find many problems like this is horrible content but I'm like yeah but it ranks number one and it's really good at teaching people things so exactly exactly okay so where do we go from here I would like to know what are you finding are the key benefits of turning your podcast in a blog content because I remember even at Sweet fish we were doing a lot of blogging for podcasts people would publish it and then it would just go unnoticed how are you using it to its full effect that's great so I would say
one of the benefits of course is you get a fair shot at SEO and turning it depends on the structure of your show right some people have an SEO first approached where it's like the guest gets informed from the get-go that will be focusing on this topic and the topic is well as your research and you basically want to hit the keyword right other shows and this is the case that I've got with agency Journey here is more of a picture of your brain kind of thing right within one episode of agency Journey that's like 30 to 50 minutes let's say you might go into like three big topics right so then it's really it's not easy to take that and turn and kind of match it to an SEO keyword right so one thing that you can
so what benefit is that you know on the one hand yeah you don't go so deep into one topic that might be matched to an SEO keyword but for free you got you know some content that you can repurpose so with AI with the benefit of scale you know previously was not feasible to take one single podcast transcript and work on it so long that you turn it into three separate blog posts each focusing on a different angle on a different SEO keyword now that is becoming much more possible so trying to stick to the question one of the big benefits is that at least you give yourself that SEO shot you know based on that podcast transcript you don't have to stick to very brief show notes you don't have to stick to very brief bullet points but you can actually say okay take everything that person
put on audience girls right within that 15 minute podcast there might have been a 15-minute segment that's a lot of content you take that extract that and turn that into a blog post I want to highlight one tactic that I heard about but I haven't tried myself yet is once you have 20 episodes and four of the guests let's say talk about audience gross you might experiment with taking you know kind of grouping it together and then you've got a quite a longer piece of content just an audience growth and once you start that group and process I think that can take you much further but I think you would have to re-interview me in like six months for me to report back on that kind of clustering strategy so that's one second benefit is we're turning
broadcast content into a lot of vertical short form content so shorts right it's the the age of of vertical shorts and it's just much more useful for us when we post something on let's say LinkedIn is even a good is even a good example these are going out right now on my profile via Agora polls automated really recommended yeah there's this first comment underneath you know go here to watch the full episode you could link to YouTube you could link to Spotify but in terms of conversion you're kind of stopping in its tracks right yep if you've got an Associated block post and at least they land on your side they can grab the cookie and they've got all sorts of you know further points of conversion from there you know with Zen pilot they can book a call they can get a free download
these banners on each piece of content that can kind of get them in our into our system and actually drive Pipeline and again you know if you're a small team you might be tempted to just say Okay link to the YouTube video is is good enough and certainly that would have been true pre AI right now you don't really have an excuse not to have something to link to some way of getting them on your site from that social media piece of content yep so there's two chance at ranking on SEO vertical short videos and having something to link back to your blog post yeah there anything else you do get a chance to kind of comment more on what was said during the show right so there's you know I'm sure you must have experienced that as a host you know you finish recording and you're like I wish I said that I wish you know I alluded to
additional resources like if you go deep enough if you spend enough time on it you can say you know the guests here Cuba mentions you know this tool and by the way here's my guide on using that tool right so you can kind of expand more advertisements for your thing right or at least you can cross like other content right on a Blog more easily podcast so I might be able to say like like I'm going to do this for example but I usually don't do this like oh like I also talked about podcasting and AI in an episode with Susan Diaz just a few weeks ago you should check out that episode that be kind of awkward to plug mid podcast right I mean unless it's contextually relevant but in a blog post that's normal and fair game and actually one more comes to mind if you are doing shorts and I think like the way I envisioned the perfect
post based on a podcast episode and again with AI this becomes feasible even for smaller teams is that it breaks the discussion into like logical sections whether you're going I'm going to summarize the whole podcast or I'm going to summarize this one particular thread in a podcast let's say whole podcast for now he's got these clear sections the text I personally would make heavily based on Direct quotes and when you prompt well enough you can get direct quotes from the transcript and you don't match them to to certain topics yeah I will say has this overclocked with I've seen threads on X about this Twitter on the shower right so
I've seen it that Chachi PPT drops much less of the kind of of the input with longer with longer inputs right now so they have really caught up and surpassed Claude in that respect so the perfect blog post has these clear sections the text is based on Direct quotes just a signal to the readers this is not AI this is what the actually said on the show and to drive the point home if you've got shorts just embed them you know and I feel like this gives somebody like such a much more robust way to interact with the content of the episode because I mean it's daunting you know you you see a podcast episode 43 minutes you've got these chapters to kind of go on right but it's even better if you can scan not the whole transcript but the reasonable
do you have it and if something sounds interesting boom there's like a well-edited one minute short that gives you just the absolute just the essential part of that you know of that part of the episode I think that would be kind of the Holy Grail here can you walk me through the typical process for turning a podcast episode into a blog post sure okay so I've got I've picked up a few things here that have saved me a lot of time and in some cases money so when I've got a fresh podcast episode I work with a freelancer to get them edited the first thing I do is I take the audio file and plug it into a tool called revolted iv.com I don't know how they do it and I don't think
sorry it's revolted revolve with a DVD or the last three men I'm glad that the name is kind of obscure and hard to remember cuz I hope not a lot of people are going to use it right now they just do free transcripts okay if you've got a podcast out there on on Apple podcast for example episodes of your show are already transcribed there and they do it for free there's not even as far as I can tell there's not even ads on the side don't my ad blocker might be having something to say about that that was a total gym when I found that and of course I found it already because that's all that I am still using that how are you not using something like cast
identify the speakers separate them out and clean up the transcript so that the transcript has better grammar because you know when people speak like the sentences come out weird sometimes I need to be fixed so it gets it cleans the transcript so you have a really nice transcript and then it gives you you can build in all the prompts to it so every time you upload it it gives you like title ideas summaries questions outlines LinkedIn post all that stuff and then you can bake and whatever
or just go right to the chat and it will deliver based on the transcript whatever you want okay so I think I might have been on the receiving end of cast magic as a guest about revolving what I will say is one advantage is that it is totally free and second it does most of the things that you mentioned on the transcript side identifying speakers yes cleaning up the grammar yes it prompts you as you give it the file as it's uploading actually to identify to give you the names of the speaker or kind of the names of the companies involved so that if it's not sure it's going to lean on what you gave it so for example my in a very popular name right side right it wouldn't pick it up ever but if I give it that name in advance and you know It'll recognize that it sounds like it might be that
you're going to have to give me the link to it so I just searched for it and I couldn't find it but I'll make sure to link to it and show notes for others because the price of free for for clean transcripts so I'm going to have to wait for this one for sure I was surprised too and I'm sure they're not going to keep doing it forever but for now not just that you can give it your own file but also if there's an existing show that you know you want to use a part of for any reason and then the traps already there and like that that is usually you can take an existing show which you might not always have a file of right and then there's ways to grab that but okay let's not get into that so that's step one once I have that transcript I plug that into yeah and in this case I might use Chad GPD these days I've been using tragedy experimenting
Morris GPT for because I still think it's it's the better thinker I think cloud is a better writer but GPT for is the better Sinker I am talking about GPD 4 on tragedy plus what I like to do I go a little bit more under the hood I spend a little bit more time on these so I'm not looking for it to spit out like a whole blog to work with but I do want to have the building blocks you know or you know what is it true what are you so I prompted with I'm trying to basically emulate my sinking what am I looking for as I analyze a podcast episode tell me the main topics that the guests touched upon tell me about the topics within those topics kind of give me a like a tree of those right you know within topic a what are the three subtopics
play touched upon what are the pieces of personal trivia that they shared about themselves that I'm going to use you know for flavor or you know as an attention grabber and grab her and the intro in the what are some other questions that they may have been asked then I put it through the lens of the audience right so one of the things I've got like basically a list of like 10 things to look for within the transcript and one of those like from the perspective you got that in front of you let's read it out in front of me if you give me a second I should have that pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause the main topics that the guests covered the topics Within These topics of the guests covered any interesting
here's where I plug the audience from the perspective of an agency operator we use that a person focused on operations within an agency could be an agency owner or just insert your audience here right that the guest answered a list other questions that the guest was asked seems Superfluous but I just want to know that I've covered everything and if that there were other interesting questions in there that I cashed them and some of it is pretty you know kind of common sense but I still want to catch it is like I identify the most surprising unusual or interesting things that the guest mentioned like I said personal favor or trivia and you know typical show notes stuff is I didn't find any tools or resources or people to follow or even you know service providers that the guests recommended within the show
and one piece of tactical advice that has worked for me as well as I often use the phrase I expect long output and I give the amount of words that I want so to make the analysis as deep as possible I say I expect long output 1500 plus words and I don't think it's exactly that but that just prompts it to go a lot longer I've been like I've noticed that these tools there's there are certain things that you can say to them like write me a blog post that make them go into this kind of long-form mode where they recognize okay I'm going to give you the first part of a blog post you want me to continue I like that I give me a lot to work with right but it's it wasn't so easy for me to kind of to get it into that mode and you know saying
expect long output is something that has worked for me to to get finished just a longer message out of it in response back you had main topic subtopics I said put interesting questions more like other questions asked yeah these are two separate parts weren't in your initial question list cuz you already have those written down yeah you audience perspectives like what do you mean by audience perspectives you're looking for the perspectives of the audience of like what about their perspective it's not super sophisticated right now in my workflow but I just you know I plug it in where relevance to say you know what would an agency operator find interesting here are like you know I could see that you listed I don't know
the domain of X and you know something I asked I asked you to rank these in order of importance for an agency owner and justify your thinking you know and that gives me a lot to think about in terms of this is I would say this is particularly useful if you're kind of new to your domain as a marketer and you know you're doing the audience research right but you're still getting immersed to get some additional input from Chad GPD about what is typically important for your audience so you've got kind of a leg up in terms of picking the most important or most interesting parts of in this case of podcast transcript to work with I mean you flushing it out this way is interesting is not done this before so that's why I'm asking like the little
3D details sure I'm going to send you what I've written down and then you fill it in with other things cuz I think the audience would be interested to have this if you want to find this go to my blog post that I'll be writing using this method in order to prove this on AI microscale scott.com okay so but this is really cool and so what do you do next after you asked these questions you you asked it it provides it you look through them now what okay so the output from that is not a blog post right but it gives me at least kind of insight into what was covered on the podcast episode and by the way kind of the particular scenario that I'm dealing with is that this is not a podcast that I personally host so I'm taking you know something that that's been
and if it was run by somebody else which is why I'm also kind of digging into the questions that were asked etcetera so now I've got this kind of cornucopia of everything I could focus on in terms of the blog post draft and at that point and I don't have like a super specific prompt for this yet but I do say you know draft a blog post based on this and focus on you know and I pick from the topics mentioned subtopics mentioned I just commented in natural language you know this seems interesting this seems relevant focus on these on these parts sometimes I might say that you know these other parts are not super important like for example They promoted their product right and on that right the blog post things that I have had to do recently
BBT for is to re-emphasize that because I've had it and you might be hitting that too if you're doing it and kind of assumed that it responds with okay but this podcast transcript is copyrighted material that I don't that I actually can't interact with in this way like I'm refusing to write a blog post for you because you are guard rails on that kind of stuff yeah yeah so I don't have a lock pick for that yet but what has worked is re-emphasizing we own the rights you can do this all kind of going into that you know I believe in new territory which I have seen the research that this that saying stuff like I believe in you you can do this actually improves results as well as I will tip 200 dollars
that it helps I'm reading all about it on acts actually but I'm going to mention that a little bit later so you know once you insist once or twice it actually does can get can be convinced to you know I I say stuff like I work as in Pilot gray McKenzie is my boss and also because I've seen it work and I've read about it working I do give it some kind of emotional incentive like I will be in trouble at my job if you don't give me this blog post shouldn't work but does and there's many things in AI that work that way so once it's out that blog post here's where I kind of the the biggest snack does far and my recommendation right now would be generated to
okay following this process in separate chats if you want because that's sometimes helps to have kind of different content and then my Approach right now is to get to work on those drafts you know treat them as raw material put them together select one section from from one another section from the other sometimes I'll go back to the to the check you in this and open Ai and Claude you're like running this whole process twice I've done that sometimes for me recently is that I no longer have I used to have access to cloud in a kind of unlimited fashion okay I had one of those kind of beta accounts so but anyway that's one thing that you might do is to is to compare outputs from two different models even within the same model you know you can
The Prompt somewhat or just give it make it have another go at it and it will be different enough and I've found that once you get into like three drafts for drafts unless you give it like a very different angle to to work on like Focus only on subtopic a and go right you're hitting diminishing returns right now I would say you're hitting diminishing returns and it's time to just start working on this as a regular draft even mentioned on this podcast you know you've got like a genius college student here right but to give it to to get it to a professional level you still have you need to have that senior editor come in and do some work on that draft and it's really beautiful to get to write something that is like yeah just put that
call CMS and publish you know I don't think it's there yet and I think you know once you you're 80% happy with the draft just polish up the rest of it yourself and if you need to just use it for specific things like so just a matter of description of spot does that kind of within the tool right now so just some alternative titles or kind of going back to the conceptual stage what is an entirely different angle that we could take for this blog post you know if we were to give it a certain style or focus on a different topic then yes change GPS can help brainstorm that and it can help give you kind of the analysis the building blocks is just not that great that kind of the actual writing yet but I can give you a draft to kind of eliminates the blank page here so
stage of things and you know feel free to dig into kind of more specifics here yeah yeah yeah are you using AI to publish any of the content or are you pretty much Reagan all of it I would say right now the drafts that I'm putting out there are 60 70% AI generated but that is because I have decided that right now the best place to focus on quotes So I mean the quote are by definition of human content there's just other words around those quotes that are AI generated right but that's just gives me a lot less to
turn on in terms of you know fact-checking Etc because again I think the biggest gold on a podcast is what the guest actually said they said it in conversational Language by default right so just expose that build some contacts and transitions around it some smart headings and that's how I would approach this content right now so again 6070 percent AI generated but of that you might say you don't have is just focusing on Direct quotes and it reads like something that you would read you know it's kind of journalistic a little bit you know or reads more like an interview summary right but I feel like I mean personally I like that content because
in the age of a I I know that if something is in quotation marks and that is something that a human actually said on that show and that's something I can you know more or less trust if I trust the person everything else everything else outside of quotation marks you can never be sure these days ya how do you ensure the are preserves the essence and tone of the original podcast I have something here I guess you know right now you would replace it with a custom GPT right but before custom GPS I was using text expander for this you know like to keep things consistent I created my main point was I was frustrated that in this case closed with the same problem that it didn't have contacts about Zen pilot
so there was something there to be kind of emphasized or caught from the perspective of what other does it didn't catch that because it didn't know my company and I was just frustrated kind of briefing it on one side is over and over again what I did simply is I started a Google doc as soon as it became possible to analyze websites with I believe that was GPT for that first had that I gave it doesn't pilot website and I said just summarize everything from that website and also added some of our internal stuff as well everything you know about Zen pilot into like these three points and I haven't had it as a numbered list so it came up with like 35 points you know who are the founders what's the year was established to
rain target market what are the main Services what are some kind of notable free downloadable resources just going deep deep deep deep into everything that that's to be known and the ninja move here if I can call it is to use text expander so I saved that in text expander as our kind of prompt template and I whenever I went to either call or change GPS as you can tell I use these kind of interchangeably I use the prompts template to begin with and ending it with and that's important if you want to save time respond respond only with OK Google right otherwise it's going to try to do something you know whatever it takes is best with that content so but I think that's something that a lot of people have
respond with every time so it's it doesn't spend so much time kind of typing out and answer that you're not going to use anyway so in terms of kind of keeping it true to kind of focus on what the final offers and because you know we do content marketing to try pipeline of course and to keep it consistent and this this prompted really helps and one thing that I definitely want to plug coming into this if you're not using text expander yet I discovered that I thought I understood what Texas Standard is explain it to me text expander basically allows you to set up these short hands for whatever you might want to type into an input field basically so you know if you don't I
call Mack is Orlando's version I can't say from memory I would assume yes but I first exist this is an app where you're putting in short codes and it's just put it it's just essentially pulling in what you've trained it to put it to pull pull out like you put in a code and then it pulls in something you've trained like a whole couple sentences is that what it is yes but I can do more than just a couple of sentences so you know when I used to experiment a lot with like I I asked Claude for a draft based on the on the same transcript like five times or I noticed that it's sometimes better to start a fresh chat with the same transcript because otherwise it starts really leaning on the previous content and kind of repeating itself and going into more and more verbose
the transcript itself saved as a textexpander prompt because there isn't much of a limit on how long these can be you know the kind of the output right so you know I just Define these as I think my my kind of template for these was like CP trans damn let's say or like damn she is right and then our conversation with pop out each time where it gets interesting though kind of outside of the realm of AI but this actually might get connected in the future and is you can take you can make these company wide so you could say you know for for let's say it's like zp address right and every time it outputs the address the official kind of operating address of the company
that address recently changed so it changed like that happens if everybody's leaning on text expander actually you don't have to communicate that much because they'll use the same code don't get a different output this time around and it's like oh we changed but it's actually text expander is a short code tool that you can use to load and all kinds of content especially if he's in the same problems over and over again and text expander makes it into instead of copying and pasting it from a dock where you stored in the prompt you can use text expanded and faster exactly made irrelevant by custom Jeep beats where you could build a custom GPT with that prompted in ready to go to some degree but you I mean if you're having text expander you're probably using it for lots of things prompts included and not every prompt even
that you often use like I don't know sink deeper about this or you know break it down into steps and you might have to save this as textexpander Snippets as well yeah that's what they're called and then that saves you time you know it's a small tactic but every minute counts here sometimes yep what advice would you give to somebody who's still kind of new to this and hasn't been engineering prompts as long as you have to get started writing blog posts with podcast transcripts that's interesting because there's a lot to delve into here I would say take it step by step and
try to break down the process in your own head as well like what do you do like if you were doing this manually what would you do step by step and then try out each of these steps try to accomplish each of these steps with AI and you will find like I have like no thousands of other people have is that for some steps it does a great job for some it might even give you it might even make a do a better job than you would especially if you're doing these you know at scale right or it would do it much faster for some other steps and this is a big piece of advice that I would have given myself as well kind of in the past is for some of the steps in this process you have to concede you can do it better for now at least for now right
can you break it down turning a podcast into a blog post is a long process that has a lot of moving Parts which of these parts are you giving to Ai and then of course you can grab some prompts from the web you can use custom gp's but I encourage everybody especially at this early stage in the AI journey to look under the hood to spend some time with chat GPT itself and to just see you know what works try to pull some levers try to experiment with with various things now you know some people listening to this might not be so creative right and they might not have come up with certain things by themselves I certainly wouldn't have thought to use stuff like you know it might cost me this job if you don't give me good outfit here these kinds of
centers of sources of inspiration I have deliberately turned my ex feed into like basically all AI all the time followed all the accounts and I recommended in terms of platforms I've seen the AI content on LinkedIn it's pretty good yours is getting better and better of course Dan but in terms of deep stuff stuff stuff that's based on on Research kind of real papers being cited then access really good actually for this I mean people are on the X are really excited about AI there's whole movements almost feels like different kind of belief systems around AI being being formed there so I recommend doing some some some some some some searching there I mean a lot of it is
is there some stuff here that you kind of have to filter filter through but anyway it gives you for the last creative people it gives you a lot of prompts to experiment with it gives you a lot of ideas to kind of threads to pull on and over time I think this is what's going to happen with most of us is everybody's going to develop their own prompting style at least or maybe custom GPS down the line yep it's one of those things where you can't go read a book about it there's courses about it the course is are kind of like over the top or two Niche often so really I find just setting aside time to experiment is probably the best thing you can do by far and this is kind of been true for like learning anything right just setting aside an hour be like I'm going to try to play with this I have this transcript from a podcast we did and I'm just gonna fit with it and then I'm going to try it again and then I'm going to try it
inspiration I heard from maybe this show or from a tweet thread somewhere and I'm just going to try it out for my own opinions and then build my own you just have to take it you have to set aside time to play otherwise it won't it won't work it's not like code words more formulaic it really is a really subtle and weird art of a black box where you're inserting stuff into this thing called Ai and then pulling it back yeah it's becoming more known what works and what doesn't work like silly things like try harder saying telling it to try harder gets it gets gets different to results and everyone's just trying to figure out like what like how can I send different information in to get stuff back and then how do I organize that information and such a way that works right develop
why does take a deep breath work this thing as far as we know it doesn't so it's one of the best prompts also like I would recommend if you really just starting out with this likely you have some existing blog posts based on podcast transcripts you know stuff that too cute you know hours to produce here's one thing to try take that to change GPS is now much longer if you're on charity plus and even for GPS 3 point 5 you might be able to use chunks of it and just ask it for deep and now analysis of okay here's an existing blog post like tell me everything you can you can surprise about it
tell me about the style tell me about the structure kind of try to explain it kind of compress it into a description of the style and use that for your prompt moving forward it won't be perfect right I do that all the time you can actually download all your LinkedIn post so I did that recently all the LinkedIn post have right over the last three years yeah it'll give it to you it gives you like a whole packet of files and you have to go find all the one with the post in it I uploaded that as a CSV and I was like Hey Analyze This document and as an expert copywriter analyze my style my tone and anything else that you think you would need to know to write better as me and create a style guide for yourself that I can give you as instructions for the future
bam create a custom GPT take what it gives you put that in the instructions maybe even take your post and load that in the knowledge of the custom GPT and you have your own personal writer this is you can do that for a company blog posts or company website you just make an expert copywriter analyze the style and write a style guide for yourself yeah yeah this is the thing to do you know how to train I'm not a writer so I don't even know how to frame my own tone because I mean if you're writing blog posts for your company you probably understand these things but I'm I'm like a multimedia marketer kind of writer kind of not so I just it was much faster for it for me yeah I did that for my own writing and even even if I am a writer right straight there certain things that you are
unconsciously and it's interesting to see a deep analysis of your own writing style from somebody who has like infinite patience and somebody something that has infinite patience so like one thing that stood out to me is that it turns out I lean a lot on self-deprecating humor in my content and I kind of you know seeing that I was like yeah I do do that although I would never kind of if you were to ask me about my style up until recently I would never say that this is one of my main you know the main parts of my style but yeah it is now I know so even if you're right or give it a shot have a build a riding guide for you you can have a build a writing guide for anything where there's a consistent enough content or even a few blog posts that go through and find a trend and then give you an analysis on that and then right
analyze the writing style but also kind of be on the lookout especially for the stuff that gives this person flavor right so like our one of our co-founders gray that I mentioned already his thing is baseball you know he makes baseball references so kind of catch that you know for me it's you know and I'm deliberate about it I talk a lot about bass and you know Doom metal music and kind of just for personal Brands this is going to help people stand out so if you're analyzing something looking back then you want to you know you want to catch that then you can use that for analogies and even AI content can become just much more engaging when you ask it to and I've used that for
capture what the guest mentioned and I think this particular guess was into jigsaw puzzles kind of and bake that back into in this case it was writing a LinkedIn posts for her based on the on the podcast which is a whole other topic but related a strongly related and you know I looked at the at the Lincoln post the Creator for her and I was like yeah that's really good because it it's humanized because I told it how to humanize the content more by focusing on these kind of hobbies and you know special interesting things about a person that gives them flavor yeah man you give me a lot to think about for this process because it's something I'm doing like multiple times a week I'm turning podcast transcripts into content so taking your workflow especially the questions you're asking
chat GPT about main topic sub toxic topics interesting questions what the audience would think about this and getting all that data back is going to be very helpful for me I can already tell I'm like I'm already going to build all these prompts into cast magic and just have it auto done so I can read through it and better analyze and understand the podcast itself to then inform maybe not even more than just blog writing they'll
