AI in Business, AI Agencies, & Writing Books with Ai #AIintheSky
AI becomes useful when leaders connect it to documented work, original expertise, and a clear brand strategy instead of treating it as a stand-alone tool or content shortcut.
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AI Is a Business Change Before It Is a Tool Choice
The first AI question inside a company is often, “Which tool should we buy?” A better question comes first: what work are we trying to improve, and who will own the change?
AI can touch marketing, customer service, finance, operations, and technology. That makes it hard to assign to one department. Leadership needs to set the direction and create room for teams to experiment, while each function identifies its own valuable use cases. Marketing can be an early model because it already works close to customer behavior, content, and communication, but it cannot carry a company-wide transformation alone.
Turn Existing Work Into a Clear System
Many early AI opportunities resemble marketing operations. A team has a process that takes too long: preparing research, repurposing content, qualifying questions, or assembling a strategic brief. The useful work is to identify the inputs, decisions, steps, and final outcome, then test where AI can contribute.
That process work is the bridge between a vague AI ambition and an actual result. A custom assistant does not become valuable because it has a clever name. It becomes valuable when it is built around a documented workflow that people already understand.
Start with one repeatable process. Analyze how it works today. Remove unnecessary steps. Improve the rest. Document the better version, then automate the portions that can be reliably handled. This keeps the team focused on outcomes instead of treating AI as a pile of features.
Content Needs Experience, Opinion, and Story
AI can rapidly generate a draft, an outline, or even a long manuscript. That abundance does not create thought leadership. As low-cost content expands, the work that stands out will still come from lived experience, a real point of view, and persuasive storytelling.
For a company book or executive-led content initiative, use AI to organize the raw material rather than replace it. Interview the founder, capture customer stories, record a podcast series, gather internal research, and extract the principles that make the organization distinct. AI can help turn those inputs into a rough structure and reusable drafts. A skilled human should still refine the argument, fill evidence gaps, and make sure the final work says something worth publishing.
Use Video to Build Trust, Not Just Volume
Generative video creates inexpensive new creative options, but a polished clip is not automatically a trusted one. When people research an important purchase, they often look for someone who has actually used the product and can explain the tradeoffs. A real subject-matter expert on camera can carry more credibility than generic visuals or an undisclosed artificial avatar.
Brands can also build recognizable characters and mascots. The useful question is not whether a synthetic personality is possible. It is whether the audience can understand what it represents and trust the relationship. A clearly nonhuman character can be playful and consistent without pretending to be a real person.
AI will keep changing the production side of marketing. The durable advantage comes from knowing your processes, creating original inputs, and deciding which human voice or brand personality people should recognize. Start there, then choose the tools that help the work move forward.
In this episode of the AI-Driven Marketer, Dan Sanchez and Marc Angelos dive into the fascinating world of AI in marketing, tackle multiple AI news items and discuss its impact on marketing.
Timestamps:
00:00 AI in the sky: exploring AI's impact.
05:36 CEO should lead company-wide AI implementation.
08:38 AI transformation in marketing leads whole organization.
11:37 Building custom GPT, feeling similar to marketing ops.
13:35 Marketing professionals need to study AI integration.
17:01 AI's impact on content and book relevance.
21:54 Struggling to soundproof a studio, book disappointment.
23:32 Desire to use AI to enhance content.
28:57 Podcast to book, adapting to AI changes.
31:03 Potential danger in creating a book unnecessarily.
37:18 People prefer authentic communication over polished content.
40:07 Developing consistent, unique brand personality for success.
41:37 YouTube thumbnails must feature logo and face.
44:40 Seeking feedback on potential recurring segment format.
welcome to AI in the sky this is a prototype episode that I'm going live with with my friend Mark Angelos to talk about AI because in a world where a lot of people are seeing this AI thing and it's looming and everybody including me or talking about the ai ai written on the wall it seems kind of ominous and a lot of people act like Chicken Little like it's like falling from the sky and it's like knocking out jobs and all that kind of stuff so even this this is kind of a beta episode Mark and I are going to explore talking about AI topics what's what's in the news with AI contextualize
marketing how it impacts Us in order to make it less ominous in order to make it approachable and talk about how the things that are happening with AI can can impact marketers in good ways and maybe it's some bad ways and we can give some caveats to what to avoid or what to go towards this is a new format for me I know Mark you've done a lot of live streaming with our friend Joe Polizzi but I'm excited for this to really experiment here and talk about some things that are going on with AI we certainly know that there's so much happening every single week we will never have stuff to run out of if we do this weekly so thanks for joining me Mark yeah I think it's great Dan because the whole concept of when something is so new there's no place to go to learn it so as you
learning from each other that's really the most ideal way to do this so hang tight this is episode 1 of AI in the sky might change the name might change the format but we're going to experiment here and do it for it we're going to build this little show in public and talk about the modifications along the way today I have a number of different topics we're going to be talking about from AI shifting in business the rise of AI agencies a writing books with AI and what the current state of AI video as what we can learn from it but let's let's talk to that first topic like I notice anthropic put out some news that Claude 3 has been is come and it's focused on Enterprise needs which I'm like huh
it seems like AI agencies including Microsoft making co-pilot and all that kind of stuff everything's starting to shift for business it's almost like last year everybody was like AI bam it was like this General use case they pulled up the veil and it was kind of like here it is but it seems like this year things are starting to tighten up to be sold even from the general companies like open Ai and anthropic now it's almost like they smell money Dan yeah I think that the the thing is these Enterprise companies they were taking off guard in my opinion how quickly this thing Advanced let the creators jumped on this right away you saw a lot of the small companies take advantage from efficiency of cost savings to workflow and all of a sudden those
what do we actually do instead of just saying this is a cool Tech where do we put it inside our systems I know everybody I talk to and I think we said this in the podcast that we recorded a few weeks ago but publishes on this Friday on the AI driven marketer that every every company is talking about this yeah every Fortune 500 company is talking about the impact of AI and where it should be where it should be placed right now I know every friend I talked to across almost every industry from dog food formulation to accounting and of course marketing is all over is talking about how ai's going to do stuff to thought Dan number one is talking about I'm not
Mega giant companies still have not even begun to move secondly who exactly inside those big Enterprise corporates owns the AI Silo is a conversation I've had with the guys over at the market institute there's is this a marketing thing is it a technology thing is it's fall under the business Revenue like there's there's no clear-cut owner right now of the AI initiative in these giant mega corporations I just recorded an episode with a guesser about this one topic the title of the episode is who owns AI I want to hear give me your take on who should own Ai and then I'll give you mine that I came to a conclusion
the caveat is I come out of 30 years of Finance Wall Street like I'm a corporate drone back in the day I run my own company now but so I'm a little biased in my view is my point which maybe is good for the show but in my opinion I think it should be on by marketing right that's where it belongs it's it's where you can get the most efficiency is where you're going to build connection with the customer that is the functional purpose of any marketing department AI is just built for that in real life it's got so much hair on it right now the it guys like there's an IT piece in here required Institute this inside marketing they're not going to want to get involved because it's a whole new thing who's the person that runs it's like blockchain like there's no expert in it yet and so
marketing will want it will they be able to pull that off this is the same argument about who has to say at the executive table when big decision is being made and is marketing being left out of that conversation I'm not saying they will be but I think that initially it's going to be an argument until money's company start to shift marketplaces and then all of a sudden a marketable and owning it but that'll take a few years here's my take you to see how you react to it now but after talking about it I'm like dude this this thing's going to impact everything from services to accounting fulfillment manufacturing it's going to be so widespread from the bottom to the top that I don't see it going anywhere else in the CEO being the one to
play Push It Forward as a thing company-wide I do think I think and I think it has to be owned by everybody but because it's got to be owned by everybody then the CEO has to be the one to really lead the charge I think marketing should be the model Department to be the model for championing it working with it because I mean eventually we're going to have to figure out how AI Works Cross organization I mean cuz otherwise like you don't really get the real benefits of AI to Competitive Edge of AI comes with data but then you got to work with your CIO in order to tap into the data right I want what marketing has asked access to just I want to just push that word Ai and initials acronym it's not just
on the corporate side AI is not being used to innovate anything yet it's going to be used to save money efficiency play building internal workflows how do we take it you were talking earlier how do we take a 16 you know they process into 8 or whatever it is that's not the same thing and so the executive has to lay the land out and say this is what we're headed I agree with that the chief executive should be the driver but in real life there's going to be a new person that will emerge inside these firms that somewhere between technology and marketing so Martin was always a thing but now it's like not just knowing tools it's understanding
which is why we went from like head of Tech like CTO to CIO there was enough of a different thing going on with data that they needed someone to just to think about the data I think the same thing will happen with AI I can see that in big companies at first it'll fall under the director of Technology if you're a mid-size company as the one kind of spearheading it and or they're not spearheading they're really facilitating it across departments because every department will have their own tools like how do you take into account that the HR tool has AI incorporated into it but so does the HubSpot right they have their own AI systems but there will be crossed apartment rental
systems 2 and somebody has to facilitate that right so you're going to get into this whole argument of a personality there was always this whole conversation around was the person running the firm a product person or a salesperson right were they a people person or were they a technology person this is an interesting Dynamic now is going to work inside of marketing slash Tech cuz they're two different types of people generally that now it's a you're marrying skill sets so this is a good conversation because I think if you're a marketer listening to this it's actually if you're a marketing leader you have to know that this is going to impact the whole company and if you're if you're the the person that's already like innovating and pushing this forward start thinking about how you can lead the cause for your whole department and
it has to be a mixture of top-down and bottom-up cuz if you don't go bottom up you're going to miss out and you're going to you might end up orchestrating things top down and then you alienate a few people on your team so it becomes a huge collaboration but if you can model it you will set the tone for the whole organization cuz marketing is like marketing and sales specifically are like really running with this thing and there's no there's no road map for how to implement this there's no like we've we've kind of know what digital transformation looks like no one really knows what AI transformation looks like yet but since most of the use cases are coming from marketing marketing gets to be the Playbook that gets to write it for the rest of the organization I'm going to put a practical handle on your tip stand which I agree with 100% what that means for the marketers were listening to this who really want to become more
is to do exactly that to be able to bring insight to the company itself like update people on what your what you understand about a potential use cases how you think it could be deployed inside the firm when you share these thoughts now whether or not you're from deploys that you become that person that internal thought leader in that regard and later that's important for things like career so move it on to our next topic I want to talk about the rise of AI agencies this is something you introduced me to just a few weeks ago you'd like if you heard of Liam ottley and I was like no so I Googled them watched a number of his videos recently I saw a video he did this like 60 Minute long presentation I'm like the five types of AI businesses of which he kind of rolls up AI Consulting a
vacation AI agency and ice and AI freelancing the reason why I wanted to bring it up into this show because I think all of those are going to touch marketers and I think even a lot of marketers that are listening to this now could be rolled like like all freelancing agency education Consulting and working with SAS is something that a lot of marketers do these things will start to bleed over into your work whether you're currently just a normal consultant or freelancer product marketing whatever you're currently doing it's going to start bleeding over so I think it's time to start paying attention to these things not only because it's going to bleed over but a lot of us might make the jump over from being a marketing consultant to being a AI marketing consultant for some context on this
used to be the social media marketing agency back in the day the SMS we all know that this is the new smma there's another it's a facility really is what it is that goes into larger organizations instead of just helping people with their social you're actually helping them with their workflows with their interfaces with the customer and building projects that help them get stuff done quickly inside of their marketing teams so it's consultancy one of the things I've noticed about these because I'm actually like fiddling around with this now like I actually have a client that I'm doing I guess you could say I'm doing a AI freelancing for I'm actually working with them to build a custom GPT and I'm hoping to document that in public about it later but right now since the process I won't say who it is or what we're building
binding now that I'm in the process of it that it's very it feels mostly like marketing Ops was I don't have to like Define like what do we want to have happen here what are the inputs what are the steps that I have to essentially automate with AI in order to achieve an outcome to take what used to take 2 weeks for them down to one day right and I'm wondering I'm like if you're going to start leaning into AI it's almost like if you have a marketing Ops background you're going to be able to excel faster because I think a lot of the thinking is this similar what do you think that's interesting I can see that so I don't come out of Marketing house but I totally agree with you there's three basic applications at least at this early stage of what these AI agencies are doing number one is the chatbot
they are creating an interface very simply I mean it's a couple hundred bucks for a firm to build this and now you have a whole client servicing Division if you will on your website and that's really more from the business model standpoint of these agencies that is their lead hook a cheap low-cost way to get involved the second thing is then AI workflows once they are in your in the conversation with these prospects these bigger firms the conversation revolves evolves into what do you guys do normally for your clients out how can we make a process more efficient and then the third thing that's hopefully from the business model perspective leading to custom AI builds like you're already doing Dan your head of the curve here how do we build you a custom GPS so that the content writing sounds like you're from
or etcetera but those three steps are basically where we are right now for these AI agencies if you're in marketing right now and you're learning about these things I feel like you really need to be studying these things I mean obviously I've gone all into this thing I'm like this is going to take over but more and more as I'm even as I'm working on this project for this client I'm taking hard thinking work I'm not it's like I'm working with the another consultant this they canceled other businesses and what I'm doing is automating what used to take someone not it's not a machine a step that you could have used with the machine before it's specifically AI Centric because it's taking its it's a it's doing thinking
when human used to do for planting and I wish I could get into more specifics but I'm like man this is coming if it can start doing thinking stuff it's not an automation tool it's not just IA intelligent automation which is there's tons of that going on and that's amazing like it's starting to dip into thinking work period all of it but creative thinking storytelling type work which was something humans used to do so but then if you look at it people always expected artificial intelligence to take the low labor jobs stuff and not be able to touch him and creativity and ironically it started at the top creative writing was the first thing it out and now we're into video text a video that's outrageous yeah
kind of comes into this this next topic I want to talk about and we might swing back to the the AI agency but I found a nap this morning it was part of an angel I was reading and it was like it was just so intriguing that I had to I had to take a swing at it the value proposition of this app and I'll just shout it out here it's called ink flow.io is it can generate a 20,000 word book in just a few clicks so I'm like okay let's Okay like I'm curious now I'm like what can this actually do so I go through the website and I'm looking at the website right now in fact can I can I share this screen share I got strong opinions on this You're Gonna Love Me For This
let's take a look at this thing so this is this is ink flow generates 20,000 words a book in just a few clicks into your book title select your language select your generation model and boom outcomes a DOT x file with 20,000 words in it I was like okay I see where this is going and you know if I went through the the frequently asked questions and one of them I was like yeah but can you lay out your chapters and know you're literally prompting it with the title so it's really not a title it's like you think of it like a one sentence prompt for a whole 20000 word book I'm like it cost 100 bucks and of course you have to connect it to you have to put in your own API key from open AI which means you have to pay open AI separately for the
actually don't know how much it cost but I've already generated a book with it cuz I wouldn't paid the 100 bucks I'm like okay you got me right I'll give you a hundred bucks if but I'm not here to get generate books obviously I'm not going to be uploading these damn Amazon I'm like I'm here to learn what's possible when someone's written a script of some kind of prompt AI to write a full book so this is 100.00 lesson for me now I'm going to generate a bunch of books what the results of this thing and what I'm trying to learn from it what's your initial reaction I'm expecting dances to spit out of a book a week now is what I'm expecting but anyway my reaction is are you familiar with the term content shock have you heard this this is basically the
directions to now ai makes it so easy to push button post content on social that you're overloaded with crap content on LinkedIn we both know is the case so there's three things all my opinion now there's three things that are going to become more and more important in an AI world and it relates to books in a second number one people want to know experiences your experience is Dan like what you did and how you lived and what you just said before marketing Ops that's a real value to a guy like me that doesn't come from that so experience is going to matter more your experience number two is having a strong opinion like I can get all the facts I want from Google or you know Chachi PT I want to know from again your experience what's your opinion
the ability to tell stories right that that never went away persuasive storytelling a guy gets up there or a girl and then and just you're in the palm of their hand in a minute that's a skill that becomes relevant when and I don't know that I can do those three things yet because when you know intellectually this thing isn't a real person doesn't matter how persuasive or well written that story was so the reason I think that matters for books we're going to get content shock in the book world there's going to be a thousand books a week that we just no one can care about and if you have nothing of importance to say you'll be able to say it faster and easier now so but the important thing is folks who really bring inside that's going to launch them to the Forefront
I need to get over the hump of yourself how many who wants to sit down and write this thing hormozi is best-selling author right now if you listen to him he writes for 6 hours every morning before he does anything else and does that for 2 years that goes away if you've got to help you but you got to have the the internal something valuable to share so I bit the bullet and bought it and then I just before like I had a couple of meetings this morning before this thing as I barely threw in one prompt and luckily like riding a title for a book isn't that hard so I put generate takes about 15 minutes it spit out the book to me if I let me let me share my screen for those was the problem about marketing no
the title The Practical guide to DIY home video Studios a topic I know well how to build yours in five days you got to pick between 3 to 6 and I picked 5 and I'm like well there's some guidance for it it didn't go off that at all so again I'm trying to prompt it somewhere with the title and this this is that what it gave me it almost gave me here's chapter 1 introduction to DIY Home Videos overview of the importance of
home video Studio I have a feeling that this is a consistent thing like every time you get give it a thing it's going to be an overview of the importance of insert topic and that's the prompt that generates this section and then it gave me a numbered list so unfortunately I can't see your screen and it didn't know but however your recap was very nice I can understand the that's why I think you're using this thing or we should be using this thing if you're an author research tool right all of the sudden it becomes here's the way for you to think about the thing you want to write about start talking about you know the importance of whatever so and that's again you overlay that research AI component with the experiential life thing that you bringing
day one day two what do we change to introduction to the five-day building plan which is a whole chapter in the book chapter 2 planning your DIY home his home video studio and I'm like you know this is a horrible book there's sections in here where it's talking about drywall but it says nothing about why you do drywall
it's a mic cuz it's you would do drywall for like like Acoustics you know for for soundproofing but it doesn't I'm trying to get back to our area trying to get back to it so that you can you know soundproof a room for Studio it's irrelevant topic but it kind of went off the mark in multiple places like that it's just not a very good book but that's why you're interested to be like well now that I kind of have an idea of what it produces what could I possibly feed it to get a reasonably c c c c minus kind of grade book because I think there are some things that we even with only the Simplicity of a title and it hopefully they launched the ability to set the chapter to and you could drive it a little further right it can do okay if you
turbo whatever I want to I want this body and it's it's a an athlete someone else it's going to be like in Arnold Schwarzenegger from the 1970s and how do I turn this into that and here's the equipment I have and you show you what you got in your house weight bench in the basement and it will go through and make a plan for you day by day and it'll get you there and four years or whatever this is the same concept where it's going to map out for you you want to get to this book and this is what you want the book to be and here's the day by day but then you need to Overlay it with in about the case of the fitness guys they're doing here's the medical data here's my body mass readings index from the
so you got to pump your own data into this overlay to get there I think you're going to get to that with the book thing that you're going to say here's the plan to make the coolest ask marketing book of all time and then dance has to pump in your experiences from having been marketing apps or whatever and that will get you there but it's it's work I wish I could connect it to like all the transcripts from a podcast I wish it could like just read all the blog posts on my site where I've written extensively about how to build Home Videos Studios and have stories and all kinds of things in there or if I could just feed it my whole course where I talked about home videos because then the content would be freaking like you would be so much closer it would go from fail it's a solid F2 maybe be minus if it was able
call from my experience which is how I usually write blog posts with AI right now I actually like I outlined the blog post with the headers and I think through what's in each section and then I just speak through it I even give the intro and I write the blog post but I just talk and record myself and then I feed it the bullet points which are the headers and I feed it the transcript of me talking through it I think we're going that way though I think that that's where it ends up like right now it is very clunky to get your personal information on your case and everything but that's coming because that is exactly what people would want if I could funnel my entire life into a book my kid is 15 and he said
I found out that knowledge is really as an extension that you have to tell it to reference you have to be like go search this document read it and then do this with it you can't just be like here's a bunch of information use it to do something fairly large and Abstract that it can't do well yet I'm sure someone could make an app to do it well just no one has done that yet but here I think we're only a year away from taking
currently what I currently just experience with this bookmaker uploading my entire podcast and then coming out with a reasonable book I think we're only someone someone's working on this right now I mean this guy's already working on or whoever published this tool I don't even know who made it yet but the issue is available to do now a lot of there's the technical side of it which you're right I agree but then there's another element here like a lot of knowledge is opinion if I say to you that men and women are different than the rest of that sentence is going to be very wildly different if you speak to and so that's where the books interesting angles come from I was a big fan when I was younger of Robert Kiyosaki he's Rich Dad Poor Dad and he poops all over the school system and I was like oh I like this but you know me while people who are
I think a lot of businesses would do well to write a book actually I think it's a wonderful marketing plan to spend time writing a book and then spend like a whole year and repurposing it will come out to make it possible for your CEO or your founder to write books on really good topics based on real stories and real data and real information that are even even if you have to spin it to a editor a Ghost Rider afterwards to finalize it and make it look good like it's going to be able to get it most of the way there soon so you'll love this
view executive thought leadership pieces for CEOs and finance where I come from and a lot of them but I've had this since said to me several times make me sound like Ray dalio so what you're describing right now actually makes that potentially possible right we know they weren't writing their books before right that was the The Dirty Little Secret I found out about hbr right it's never written by the violin or hardly ever if it's a guest maybe but no like there are written by professional writers that interviewed the subject matter expert that doesn't know how to write they think they do but they only know how to write academic ease you know yeah nobody can understand but then the writer does the hard work of synthesizing it down into something like approachable and then they give it back to the
I know I'm using AI to write more and more but I'm also like a C+ right I'm not in a plus right or I want to dig into that for a second damn the the from the perspective of the marketing world right now if you're a marketer and you're in how can you actually help your executive c-suite leverage this potentially like what would we do what would we sit down with at the at the table and just say you know we're going to we're going to do a biography of
nice company exists or we're going to walk through the founders principles of the mission of his firm or do we do you know like they'll probably attack case studies and client use cases is Mike is to go to is my guess what would you recommend what do you think would be the most effective way if you could funnel all that information into this book machine and make the cool book how should a marketing team do use it honestly that's what I'm doing with the podcast right now great even with this podcast I am like my end goal for the podcast at the end of the year since the goal is to master AI in 2024 for myself as to finish with the book even if it's like version 1.0 because obviously AI is good
what it means to be an AI driven marketer will change over time but I'd like the right somewhat of a road map based on all the lessons learned from the podcast so how I'm planning on doing it which is what I think good marketing teams will do even with their Founders is use a podcast to pull out the stuff because it's so hard to sit down to a blank paper and be like how do I organize this that I even stopped down with my friend who's a chiropractor yesterday and he wants to make course content while I'm like you know just do the journalism thing who what when where why how and I'm like asking him questions about his his basic thing that he wants everybody to go through and I pulled out the course content out of him I'm like here's here's the videos on what three videos on how and then one on one
cuz you can literally like use content marketing to build your way there and then use AI to take all the raw content episode footage to synthesize a lot of it turned it into the rough rough drafts of the book right and then use a writer to finish it and you go through it and start doing the work of adding oh it would be nice if we had some stats here it'd be nice if we had a little story here and be nice if we had an extra illustration here but AI will be able to take the transcripts and outline it and I'm hoping the tools become a little bit better instead of just using a custom GPD to do it in the future like 10 months from now I'm sure this book technology
Farther Along you'll be able to feed it more so you can take a year to build your way up to the book and and talk about the Journey of building the book and building the next way of revolutionizing the industry and that way you want to with your company published the book and then spend a whole next year repurposing that while you're on the kind of like revamping up for your next big thing the only danger I foresee would be making a book just for the sake of having a book the company is all want a book I think that what you're describing is very strategic and very goal or like you know where you're going with that and why you're doing what you said I'm doing this with the podcast actually that's good because you think strategically and I think that the marketer who thinks that way will leverage just to properly my fear is a lot of these bigger companies are just going to bang on it
yeah well I mean there will always be people who do it well and people who don't do it so well that shouldn't stop people from thinking about it as a as a strategy or a tactic to publish thought leadership and create a lot of really cool content on the way there and then to repurpose afterwards I'm reminded of Stephen Covey begin with the end in mind but that would be very like this is an effective tool almost with podcast brought back in the day books could potentially bring to the marketing team so that's that's the hypothesis I figured I didn't invest 100 dollars today and whatever I pay in API credits and at least I'm like at least it'll be something freaking interesting to talk about on LinkedIn yeah
what are experiment to be like hey tried this it failed or kind of worked here now you don't have to waste your money on an AI bookmaking tool I think it's cool and book something in the process of spitting on it like 15 crappy books maybe maybe each one gets a little bit better but we'll see you know what's funny the closing comments everyone understands how AI is destroying video in the whole Hollywood business model no one's really looking at the book world because it's doing the same thing there oh yeah it's doing it faster there but I'm I haven't even taken a look at like the audio section yet or the e-book library but I'm sure the ebook library is blowing up with a bunch of crappy books right now I'm sure I need to go look I'm maybe off
can you do this again I'll bring up the status see if what I can dig up on that last thing to talk about is the current state of AI video segway baby cry video I mean Sora from opening our last 2 weeks ago that it's unbelievable the advances that have happened way faster than anybody expected and honestly that's been The Missing Link in the marketing World in my opinion writing was always a marketing strength video require production required money it required budget that people Frank I didn't want to put it so that's why that whole age world existed because of that you go back to like Mad Men and then I can you know 50s and 60s you can
out of any companies backroom you know janitor closet I so funny because Sarah that announcement only came out a few weeks ago but it already seems like old news even though it was like literally revolutionary we were all everybody was like oh yeah I thought this was at least a year away I know I saw a midget Journey six at the end of December I was like whoa and then of course I thought like I wonder when I wonder when video will be this good and I was thinking about a year from now we'll see mid Journey 6 level video yeah dude that rocked the world did you see the video of the woolly mammoths whatever walking
it's unbelievable that that's from words yeah and almost all the shots at least all the ones that are demoing right now and of course you can play with it like in a limited way and see what else it makes but I'm like it's good and of course it has its Oddities and weird stuff but I'm like and we're not on version 1.0 either it's obviously been tweaked a lot over the years but like a lot of people are making like the Will Smith scenario of the spaghetti yeah you're going to get to now and that was only one year difference you're like yeah this is exponential Improvement if it got from the Will Smith video of him a really weird and awkward zombie looking version of him and his fingers look like this spaghetti itself six fingers eating spaghetti to like the craziness we have now I'm like okay
what will it be like a year from now like this is this is just nuts and this is where people start getting scared of AI but I'm like well here it is let's learn how to maximize it what it tells me is that a is fasting is progressing faster than everyone expects even the people that are reading up on the news every single week or like oh shoot this is nuts so two things I don't want to get into the whole controversy of it yet because the whole thing is that but I do think that there is something to be said for relationship building that is the whole purpose of marketing and this video builds relationship quicker these are all facts have nothing to do with AI so how are you strategically using this AI tool now which is unbelievable to build a relationship I think this because the tech has moved so fast
strategy is lagging people there was a pizza Commercial made a couple of a year ago do you remember this was a video it was a text to video Pizza commercial for a fake Pizzeria it was hilarious because the people that had six fingers and you couldn't tell there's the cheese and the person that's going to become believable enough already it is where you can actually deploy stuff now this isn't just cool it's coming it's here so what's the strategy Nobody Knows the value of this program I think that these companies are going to sit down and say okay do we really want a relationship or are we really just trying to sell stuff transactional is very different from relational and you can take it anywhere you want there's a lot of you know this is
conversation around that but I think this text to video is going to be the main thrust for most marketing teams in the next year why wouldn't it be it's simple it's cheap and it's the most effective medium and you said it before which is part of the reason why I was interested in doing this live stream right is the people who do live now will have an advantage because a I can't do stuff live and it won't be able to at least for a little bit but maybe we'll be shocked by that and like July it's like and now we can do live and respond to the comments you're like what I don't know you don't know what do you know how social media today Dan is very it's a little bit grungy and people like that you don't want the Hollywood polish yep that's the same AI
stuttering and thinking for a second humans want that they don't they don't want when they're getting information or if they want to understand a company and they're thinking of a big purchase or you're about to do a deal with someone you want to know the real them so if there's an AI hey Jan Avatar of Dan and Mark talking with 11 Ladd voices and it's not really us but it's the same conversation it's not going to be as effective now I I even find my own habits with YouTube and YouTube has been inundated with b-roll videos and you don't even know if the voice behind the b-roll is real but I go you know I do I do it most people do every time I'm like researching something like a couple years ago
I'm a new homeowner a few years ago and I'm trying to figure out how to take care of my lawn you know Bermuda grass I don't know anything about it so I'm researching it but I I instantly stay away from the videos where I can't see a face of a person who's actually done the research on the lawn mowers there's plenty of videos being like oh here's the review on this lawn mower it's all b-roll it's all photos it's all done by somebody that I can tell actually touch the lawn mower so what do I go look for the YouTube who are like specializing lawn care and it's literally be like well I bought two lawn mowers it could be an iPhone video I don't care give me a honest guy giving an honest review from the middle of nowhere Texas doing a video on the lawn mowers for this type of grass you know that review
this is why companies sign the face of their company with Nike brings out a Michael Jordan you know as opposed to the Michelin Man which is fine you know Mickey Mouse it's fine but it's not a real person I think it's people connect with people and to your point then there's a human element of trust there when you want to see a face of a real person as ugly or on camped or whatever but you want to know that you're dealing with the person so that I think I think you're right that that will be a trend of something that companies can do to continue to build trust to does that while everybody else is right but it presents a problem when I was back in finance and I was becoming a LinkedIn name and writing the company didn't like having not being able to choose the face of their phone like it was friction there for me and the reason I bring that
it's because these companies will have to decide who is the face of the firm is it the CEO and what if they leave is it the marketing team like it's easier to control an artificial AI Avatar you know there's not going to be a dispute over the financing I don't know like it's going to become an issue for companies but video is important that's not going to go away it's going to become more the case you know I do think there's something there for creating a mascot of sorts I think I think I think you can win by going authentic in building a Founder brand or picking subject matter experts or doing even what like Dave Ramsey or the daily wire doing is diversifying away from Ramsey and Shapiro and having lots of personalities or ways it's played out but I think there's something about
and I'm trying to do it myself but I haven't gotten my custom GPT to be consistent enough but I am trying to come up with the personality of like a little robot head that has a consistent personality and it's just like you know you think of like Wendy's and it's just like constantly roasting people like what if you created a personality and even on video and it has it's just take you know that's unique and fun and then you develop it over time and maybe it starts going on some Journeys and then that's that's kind of interesting IP to build and it's way easier to do with AI soon because you can it's getting closer and closer to be able to build consistent characters and something like mid-year in video in the future so for the marketers out there all the writers will recognize the term personification right when you was signed human qualities to an inanimate object that personification of
Japanese is going to happen because of this AI capabilities these companies will have to decide this isn't fluff like what's our mission and stapled to the wall they have to decide for business purposes what's the personality of the firm literally The Voice male or female like literally what does it look like if you think about Mr Beast Jimmy Donaldson's face is famous everyone knows him he's there is a Mr Beast logo it's like a tiger or whatever it is but that's not what's on his YouTube thumbnails it's him so these companies will have to have the logo the name and the face and so then I think you're out of this one Sonic branding is another one what's the sound of the company from McDonald's or whatever like companies need to start because in a Content driven world when we reach
you need to have a strategy in place that people can say yes I recognize right away that's a dangerous thing right AI in the sky or whatever or I recognized the logo and I know the face attached to that logo that's it's important when Apple has the the icon with the bite of the Apple missing from it but you kind of know Steve Jobs's faces and Steve isn't around anymore but you still associate that or Walt Disney everyone knows what looks like even though he's holding the hand of a fake mouse like that that's where we're headed and so companies in the marketing department is will lead the charge what do we want to do that's going to represent this for me in audio video and text man I think just doing
play some of these things having some sincere genuine personalities having some made-up person personas that you can have some fun with are you familiar with itana have you heard of this she's she's an AI generated Spanish supermodel the Instagram model right yeah yeah yeah and she gets hit on all the time by famous celebrities in Europe she's not real but and she's making something like 25,000 dollars a month the thing is there's a face there and people know it's fake but there's a face that's why if I was a robot iconic it wouldn't be the same so I think these companies have to start thinking about the psychology behind like there's Tech and the tools are great but there's another element here gosh that's interesting I'd be more afraid as a company to put out
that looked human I almost want to run in the other direction in cartoonify it or make it a robot or make it make something not human because I think especially when you start going into video and it's not a real video as a mascot I just I'm like at least in the short-term I think that's dangerous for companies no problem in the early days of advertising you had the Marlboro Man and Ronald McDonald's but you also have like Mickey Mouse and that's a lot safer if because it's not human so I think that you're right I would come up with Lisa at this point with something that's not a very specific human thing but I think ultimately it still needs to have a voice yes
there needs to be a personality attack that's the word it's a personality I don't have all the human attributes without actually pretending to be human I think that's the thing that people get nervous about with AI of course that's going to blow up where it is realistic and we'll have weird relationships with these AI video looking things like that that's part of it comes cuz I'm not ready to talk about it from a marketing perspective I think that this is something companies should be thinking about yep so this was fun hope you're listening give us some feedback hit me up on LinkedIn talk to Mark did you like this format did you like what we covered how about the name AI in the sky if you don't hear anything I'm going to do it again and we'll see how it goes but this I'm hoping to make a reoccurring segments
so but we wanted I want to drive in a building in public let's drive it with some feedback so let us know ya quick behind the scenes the building of public thing is at the end of record I was like this is a great approach because people want to know no one knows it's like to put ourselves out there and we left the feedback if you guys have any kind of insights it would help us help you
