I spoke on the Stacking Growth Podcast by Refine Labs about:

  • The direction of my personal brand
  • Why I changed jobs from Sweet Fish to Element451
  • The coming verticalization of SaaS
  • The Audience Growth Ceiling
  • & The Four Audience Growth Pillars

Listen on: Spotify | Apple | Google

I had a blast recording this episode with the Refine Labs team and I hope you enjoy listening to it.